MONEY MORAL DILEMMA: Should Hilary buy Chelsea's fags for her?

mh1923

The real money saving question would be if Hilary would buy them for her partner when her partner's fag money comes out of the household budget.

Paul_Herring

saveroo wrote: »

Smoking costs a fortune in health care costs

Given the current taxation, smokers are paying a fortune in tax. Hypothetically, if everyone gave up buying tobacco in this country, the government would be in dire straits. Including the NHS.

BritSwedeGuy

Paul_Herring wrote: »

I'm sorry, but am I the only person who fails to see a legitimate analogy here?

Yep. Just because it's legal doesn't make it right.

BritSwedeGuy

Paul_Herring wrote: »

Given the current taxation, smokers are paying a fortune in tax. Hypothetically, if everyone gave up buying tobacco in this country, the government would be in dire straits. Including the NHS.

As a junior Conservative health minister once pointed out, despite the large proportion of people clogging up hospitals with smoking related illnesses, they still more than break even because of the pensions they save by them dying sooner.

cotsvale

No she should not buy them. I used to buy cigarettes for my mum because she was addicted but couldn't always afford them. I thought I was being kind. She died of a smoking related cancer. ......Who's sorry now....

Gordon_the_Moron

I'd not buy them on the cheap for her, I'd buy them cheap and sell them to her full price, then donate the difference to Cancer Research, if she refused to buy them from me I would remind her every time she smoked one she was robbing money from a charity by buying them from the chancellor. That way if she didn't smoke brilliant, if she did and bought them full price from me, harmful though it was it would be doing some good for someone, if she bought them legally then (hopefully) she would feel guilty, whatever happens its doing some good.

Gordon_the_Moron

BTW I detest smoking and I welcome the ban from July 1st.

This is how much I hate it, my parents both smoked as I grew up (my mum still does, my dad has stopped but fairly recently) they were both addicted and they offered me £1000 on my 21st birthday if I didn't smoke, I took the £1000, I am now in a relationship with a girl who has smoked since she is 14, I love her and want to marry her and spend the rest of my life with her, I have offered her that money as a small (or at least I think its small, who cares about money when it comes to someone you care about) incentive to stop (yes saying who cares about money on a moneysaving forum is wrong but I don't care) to try and get her to stop, I've also offered to finance anything I can to help her stop (if its not available on the NHS)

I'm a bit drunk but I hate smoking, the tax on them isn't helping annyone stop I will do anything I can to do that.

Da Moron

lyneaux

The dilemma: on the one hand, save a few pounds. On the other, inflict actual bodily harm and also defraud the revenue.
It's a no-brainer! Set us a hard one next time, Martin.

bridgfordboy

Unless Hilary is giving the fags away it's illegal to import fags for anyone else.

But ignoring that she should refuse to bring em back and tell her why. We make moral judgements all the time and whilst a freindship is important and you may go the extra mile for them somethings aren't worth compromising on.

scrooge678

I'm amazed at that person who said cigarettes had become dangerous only recently - has he wondered why there has been such an increase in childhood asthma over the years when adults smoked around their children? This isn't just in the last 15 years.
And why is it that some heavy smokers can give up overnight and other lighter smokers reckon they can't do it at all?
I can understand that smokers are beginning to feel alienated, but they've brought it on themselves by being so inconsiderate for so many years - only now are some of them starting to consider other people. For years we had to put up with smoking in restaurants, buses, cinemas, etc. My husband died of lung cancer brought on by other people's smoking at work - he didn't smoke himself.
And why on earth would a non-smoker choose a smoker as a partner? Isn't it part of what makes people attractive or unattractive to us? I simply can't imagine being attracted to someone whose breath, hair and clothes smell of a dirty ashtray. And smokers often haven't a clue how much they smell - they are amazed if you "guess" they are smokers.