Nice people thread part 8 - worth the wait

zagubov

There's only a limited range of visual features that are inherited simply. Hair colour's a bit more like a discontinuous variable. I gather that hairdressers recognise and work with over a dozen distinct hair colours/hues/tints whatever, so I'm guessing there's many genes. At least one produces the brown pigment that makes people. dark or brunette or blond and another that makes them redhaired.

There are or were cultures in Africa where inheritance is via a man's sister's children rather than his own children, as he can be more sure that his nephew sand neices are related to him than ihis own children.

bugslet

lostinrates wrote: »

The friend of dh's who visited recently and DH talk in Latin together sometimes. Sounds very odd, because they speak it so differently.

I did Latin O level and find that fact that anyone could actually speak the language scary and intriguing all at once!

lostinrates

Tell you more about equine colour genetics?

Ok.....the easiest thing to do might be to link to a colour genetics calculator

http://www.horsetesting.com/ccalculator1.asp


There are colours in the options you will probably have heard of....like palomino, bay or black. There are others you might have heard of might might not have, like cremello and then there are ones you might recognise if you saw but we call something different here like sorrel (we call it chestnut) or the Duns.....which we name differently as duns. (E.f. I don't think you'd find mouse dun as an option, but its one of the established dun colour choices here) and then there is buckskin, a colour which we never really acknowledged..

(Grey isn't an option because grey is expressed over another colour....white horses are commonly thought not to exist, but thats not quite true either, they do, but aren't really a good think, there is a lethal white gene linked to a colon disease where the foals are born white and healthy and die pretty quickly but many white horses are simply naturally miscarried.

Then....there are all the things we are learning about coats...silver expressions, dilutes and double dilutes.

For example. Old horse was simply classed and pass ported as 'brown'. Now I wonder if she had been gene tested if she might not have been ' smokey black'. https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=672&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=RT76UcfgCIiA0AWdgoHYCw&q=smokey+black+horse&btnG=Search

The result would still have been that she was 'brown' of course.

Special girl was black. I wanted a black or grey foal from her and it was easy to arrange. I now wish I had tried for a Grullo, which is a stunning colour....I'd really like a Grullo......but they don't really come in the 'make' of horse I like. The problem is the type of horse I want to work with is a bit like a ford...comes in any colour as long as its....well, not black in this case but...with a greyish gene. Not keen on greys now, as they are harder work as they get older and now I am older and more broken easy sounds good. I love the Duns, and the grullos, and the liver chestnuts with a silver dilution, (that's probably my fav but don't know what its called in American/ scientific...I might know really but cannot find it in my head today!) . Then there is an Icelandic colour called 'Gra' which is a soft rabbit ish grey, that's nice too. And the rich deep palominos (I've never had a palomino)

lostinrates

bugslet wrote: »

I did Latin O level and find that fact that anyone could actually speak the language scary and intriguing all at once!

One of them teaches it....the other speaks 'modern Latin' as a first language, and was interested in classics even though not his subject, at university and had a really good classic education (Greek too). Its incredible, because of course, DH speaks Latin with an Italian accent, and it sounds so different to how we usually here it in uk.

chewmylegoff

Re genetics I have:

R/G colourblind
Can't roll my tongue
No earlobes to speak of
Stupid grey hair

zagubov

lostinrates wrote: »

One of them teaches it....the other speaks 'modern Latin' as a first language, and was interested in classics even though not his subject, at university and had a really good classic education (Greek too). Its incredible, because of course, DH speaks Latin with an Italian accent, and it sounds so different to how we usually here it in uk.

I did it for my highers (like A levels). Amazingly easy logical lanbguage to learn, and very useful in science and medicine.

Makes it easy to guess what a lot of foreign words mean. I remember seeing a documentary about an AIDS clinic in Romania and different wards had titles like "suspecti" and "confirmati".

lostinrates

zagubov wrote: »

I did it for my highers (like A levels). Amazingly easy logical lanbguage to learn, and very useful in science and medicine.

Makes it easy to guess what a lot of foreign words mean. I remember seeing a documentary about an AIDS clinic in Romania and different wards had titles like "suspecti" and "confirmati".

In contrast, the most useless thing I know, and one of the things I never forget is how to say 'shall I turn the windscreen wipers on?' In Serbs Croatian. I just cannot figure out when the question would ever be needed. Either you are driving and do it or you are not and you keep your hands to yourself. I suppose the inanity of it is why I have never forgotten it. I can forget my own name, birthday, all memorable dates, a language or two...but I know how to ask how to turn windscreen wipers on....

PasturesNew

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Sounds as if they are frustrated Authorised Bible writers, as "begat a child" sounds very Biblical.

Well, I made that bit up.... but there is a lot of "backwards/confusing" writing going on.

I am an advocate of "VERY plain English" and most of my writing is me re-writing complex things for simpletons (aka: at a level I understand).

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

In contrast, the most useless thing I know, and one of the things I never forget is how to say 'shall I turn the windscreen wipers on?' In Serbs Croatian. I just cannot figure out when the question would ever be needed. Either you are driving and do it or you are not and you keep your hands to yourself. I suppose the inanity of it is why I have never forgotten it. I can forget my own name, birthday, all memorable dates, a language or two...but I know how to ask how to turn windscreen wipers on....

Similarly, the early French we learn in school books: Le singe est sous l'arbre.... or my memory's a bit forgetful.... The monkey is in the tree.

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

DH speaks Latin with an Italian accent, and it sounds so different to how we usually here it in uk.

We hear Latin?
I've never heard Latin.