my god, this lot are stopping childcare vouchers now

Moby_Tide

Xiderpunk wrote: »

Wrong on all counts, I will not receive a state pension due to having paid into a private pension for most of my working life. In fact I have never received a penny from the state ever.

You and your family have never been in an NHS hospital ever? Or seen a Doctor or a Dentist? Or had a service from your local Council subsidised by the State?

I'm wagering you have received something from the State in your lifetime, you just don't realise you have.

Your surname isn't Cameron or Osborne by any chance?

nicko33

chewmylegoff wrote: »

Surely as Mrs White Horse stays at home to look after the foals this has no impact on you whatsoever.

I think he's complaining that the government is giving out LESS benefits. Stupid lefty, always wanting more benefits.

Xiderpunk

Moby_Tide wrote: »

You and your family have never been in an NHS hospital ever? Or seen a Doctor or a Dentist? Or had a service from your local Council subsidised by the State?

I'm wagering you have received something from the State in your lifetime, you just don't realise you have.

Your surname isn't Cameron or Osborne by any chance?

Sure I have been into an NHS hospital on a couple of occasions. Both my wife and I pay into private healthcare and have done for about 15 years. My dentist is again private and I can not recall ever seeing an NHS dentist. OK, almost certainly I will have had some use of some state provided services, but that is picking hairs.

As a married couple we get married allowance on our earnings, a pointless 'incentive' IMHO and would like to see it made equal for married and non-married alike. Both my wife and I are higher rate tax payers which I do not quibble about, I am happy with my lot. However I fail to see why we are EXPECTED and indeed vilified if we are not sympathetic to supporting other peoples children and life style choices.

ukcarper

Could you explain why you will not get a state pension and how you are still married couples allowance when it ended years ago.

notanewuser

Xiderpunk wrote: »

Sure I have been into an NHS hospital on a couple of occasions. Both my wife and I pay into private healthcare and have done for about 15 years. My dentist is again private and I can not recall ever seeing an NHS dentist. OK, almost certainly I will have had some use of some state provided services, but that is picking hairs.

As a married couple we get married allowance on our earnings, a pointless 'incentive' IMHO and would like to see it made equal for married and non-married alike. Both my wife and I are higher rate tax payers which I do not quibble about, I am happy with my lot. However I fail to see why we are EXPECTED and indeed vilified if we are not sympathetic to supporting other peoples children and life style choices.

There is no married tax allowance - hasn't been for donkey's years.

ruggedtoast

Xiderpunk wrote: »

Sure I have been into an NHS hospital on a couple of occasions. Both my wife and I pay into private healthcare and have done for about 15 years. My dentist is again private and I can not recall ever seeing an NHS dentist. OK, almost certainly I will have had some use of some state provided services, but that is picking hairs.

As a married couple we get married allowance on our earnings, a pointless 'incentive' IMHO and would like to see it made equal for married and non-married alike. Both my wife and I are higher rate tax payers which I do not quibble about, I am happy with my lot. However I fail to see why we are EXPECTED and indeed vilified if we are not sympathetic to supporting other peoples children and life style choices.

Why dont you go and move to Somalia and see what a country that has no state supported infrastructure is actually like.

The hypocrisy of people like you is staggering. You happily reap all the benefits living in a country which subsidises road, rail, policing, defense, government, emergency services, environmental health, medical health, disease control, education, planning, energy, development and a hundred other things without which your "higher rate tax" job would not exist and have you most likely grubbing about in a field looking for something to eat; and still have the sheer, bald, stupidity to claim that you don't see why you should 'support' other people.

michaels

Umm - Calm down dear

Your 'rights' to vouchers (ie making childcare costs tax deductible for higher rate taxpayers at 40% compared to the 20% relief people poorer than you get) are being 'grandfathered' for 5 years from 2015 to 2020 so it is 7 years before this might have any possible impact. You will probably cope.

CLAPTON

Xiderpunk wrote: »

Sure I have been into an NHS hospital on a couple of occasions. Both my wife and I pay into private healthcare and have done for about 15 years. My dentist is again private and I can not recall ever seeing an NHS dentist. OK, almost certainly I will have had some use of some state provided services, but that is picking hairs.

As a married couple we get married allowance on our earnings, a pointless 'incentive' IMHO and would like to see it made equal for married and non-married alike. Both my wife and I are higher rate tax payers which I do not quibble about, I am happy with my lot. However I fail to see why we are EXPECTED and indeed vilified if we are not sympathetic to supporting other peoples children and life style choices.

I am curious

previously you have said you won't get state pension but everyone gets state pension if you have made sufficient NI contributions .... are you saying you don't pay NI?


and of course married allowance only applies to the over 75... are you over 75?

Mr._Pricklepants

ruggedtoast wrote: »

You happily reap all the benefits living in a country which subsidises road, rail, policing, defense, government, emergency services, environmental health, medical health, disease control, education, planning, energy, development and a hundred other things

I happily pay taxes for all of the above but don't feel I should be subsidising leftie serial breeding filth moronic scummy cretins like white horse so he can have a more comfy life.

wotsthat

Does show how fat, greedy and entitled we've become when someone earning a salary that puts him in the UK's top 2-3% of earners routinely complains he doesn't receive enough taxpayer handouts.

Dispatches last night ran a show last night looking at how rich pensioners were getting benefits they didn't need. It was edited to be blood pressure raising but the entitlement and simple lack of self-awareness of some people is astounding. i.e. yes I'm rich - I earnt it and yes I should get benefits - I 'paid in' so deserve them.

To 'balance' the argument we had to go to the opposite end of the spectrum to hear the views of some young people who, IMO, were unlikely to ever 'pay in' - they were just entitled as the early retired boomers!

We don't need to go back 40 years but surely there needs to be, for want of a better word, a stigma attached to being in receipt of any benefits.

No wonder wage inflation is so low when the government keeps topping up the income of a load of ingrates.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/episode-guide/series-111/episode-8