my god, this lot are stopping childcare vouchers now

onlyroz

grizzly1911 wrote: »

Who says mum stays at home?

How many full-time dads do you know, in comparison to the number of full-time mums?

clear_as_mud

Or people could stop relying on benefits and hand outs and actually make a living for themselves? Just an idea. Be grateful for what you have, not greedy money grabbers.

onlyroz

clear_as_mud wrote: »

Or people could stop relying on benefits and hand outs and actually make a living for themselves? Just an idea. Be grateful for what you have, not greedy money grabbers.

Greedy money grabber? I have paid around £80k in childcare in the last 7 years. The government has given me a small fraction of this back in the form of an income tax rebate via childcare vouchers.

I also pay around £10k a year in income tax and national insurance. Would you prefer that this tax didn't find its way into the economy?

lippy1923

onlyroz wrote: »

Greedy money grabber? I have paid around £80k in childcare in the last 7 years. The government has given me a small fraction of this back in the form of an income tax rebate via childcare vouchers.

I also pay around £10k a year in income tax and national insurance. Would you prefer that this tax didn't find its way into the economy?

But you chose to have kids, so why shouldn't you pay for the childcare? Why should you get anything back? (not being sarcastic but asking a genuine question)

The_White_Horse

grizzly1911 wrote: »

As long as he is OK that is all that matters.

exactly! i live my life to support myself and my family. if i wasn't taxed so much to support a raft of idiot public sector employees and benefit scroungers, life would be far easier.

The_White_Horse

Generali wrote: »

I thought Mum didn't work. It's hard to see why you need subsidised childcare, especially as you are in the top 15% of earners.

i don't need it. but i shouldn't be penalised because my wife stays at home. if I want to send my child to nursery, i should be entitled to the same treatment as potentially two parents earning £150k each.

the tories are beginning to wind me up with their stupid policy.

counting_down_the_days...

If I stopped working and stayed home to look after my 2 children we would be entitled to benefits. However, instead I choose to work and put my children to nursery. We buy childcare vouchers which is a salary sacrifice. However, I pay tax and don't claim any other benefit, so surely it's better for the economy for me to continue working.

We will be worse off with this system, and on a tight budget, I'm not happy, however, it doesn't come in until 2015 and knowing this government they'll probably change their mind by then anyway.

To those who disagree with the childcare vouchers - I'm assuming you don't have any salary sacrifice's for shares, extra holidays, cycle to work, company cars etc?

onlyroz

lippy1923 wrote: »

But you chose to have kids, so why shouldn't you pay for the childcare? Why should you get anything back? (not being sarcastic but asking a genuine question)

I do pay for the vast majority of my childcare.

But in general...

Childcare costs are a HUGE expenditure for a relatively short period of time (i.e. until their child starts school). There are many people who choose to abandon their careers permanently because they cannot get over this childcare hurdle. It is better for the economy to help these people get over this hurdle so that they are able to continue their careers and to pay larger amounts of income tax.

I don't see the problem with giving working parents a few £k to help them out for a few years when in return they'll be paying back much larger amounts of income tax.

The alternative is often for such people to stay at home, or when their child starts school end up in a minimum wage job propped up by tax credits.

Carl31

onlyroz wrote: »

Greedy money grabber? I have paid around £80k in childcare in the last 7 years. The government has given me a small fraction of this back in the form of an income tax rebate via childcare vouchers.

I also pay around £10k a year in income tax and national insurance. Would you prefer that this tax didn't find its way into the economy?

Thats all your choice though?

If you didnt pay the tax, your job would still exist and someone else would pay it

The_White_Horse

i think the real problem with the lefty is they have a problem grasping the fact that the salary someone earns is their salary and the Govt are taking those people's money from them. when you buy vouchers etc it is not a benefit, it is simply the Govt taking LESS of what is MINE. most people would have ample to pay the extortionate child care costs if such a large chunk of salary wasn't stolen from them.

it's like when the lefties argued that the rich were getting money from the govt when the 50% rate is dropped to 45p. They are simply TAKING LESS not giving anything.

bloody lefties and their warped minds.