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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Sampong wrote: »
    It doesn't matter which way you spin it,

    They will all have access from next year, and there's not a thing in the world you can do to stop it. :)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    olly300 wrote: »
    Actually I'm p*ssed of with the lack of understanding of simple data shown by some on this board.

    Perhaps you should get your facts in order then before piling into people who actually post correct information.
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    edited 9 March 2013 at 8:26PM
    BobQ wrote: »
    You many not agree with what she says ,

    It's kind of hard to agree with someone when they can't put together an argument based on any reason or thought, instead resorting to a verbal attack calling someone "disgusting" - that is below basic human decency - so no Bob I don't agree with her - nor would many others I imagine.
    BobQ wrote: »
    but she is entitled to express heer opinion.

    That directed at me? Go through every single one of my posts in this thread and show me where I said she isn't entitled to her opinion. Go on then - I challenge you.

    Only problem is, it's not really her opinion is it - rather one spoon fed to her by the party she works for (she wants to keep that job rather than end up trying to find work in a factory and realizing she can't compete with cheap migrant labour). As I said above - where it the thought and reason? There is none - other than that she "thinks UKIP are disgusting" - hardly a noteworthy opinion.

    BobQ wrote: »
    Many people think UKIP are disgusting, largely based on teh extreme views of specific candidates on immigration. Indeed our own PM once told Londoners that UKIP were 'A Bunch Of Fruitcakes, Loonies And Closet Racists' so she is not alone in disliking the party.

    You mean this David Cameron?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ2n7oMcSi0

    The one who always tells the truth? The one who never lies? "Closet Racists"? Don't make me laugh - only a bigot would make such a comment, and look how far that attitude is getting him - the Tories stand no chance of winning the next General Election. They are losing support all the time, there have been many defections to UKIP (yes I know Bob.....there was one defection in the other direction before you mention it).

    Half of Tory MP's want out of the EU and immigration controlled - of you do your research you will find many examples of this. Are they all closet racists aswell? Cameron's time as leader of the Cons is limited.
    BobQ wrote: »
    As to her selection, its quite normal to select audience members and they are all pre-screened for their political affiliations, and views and the question they wouold like to ask. See:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17154440

    So I think its paranoia to say Twigg put her up to it.

    I don't.
    BobQ wrote: »
    The BBC tries to select a balanced audience

    Holy sh*t. The only way I can think of to respond to that is in the style of chewmylegoff;
    chewmylegoff wrote: »
    Seriously. No actually, are you serious?

    I suppose that, if a year ago I told you that one of the BBC's biggest ever stars would turn out to be a child abuser and the BBC turned a blind eye to it you would call me paranoid..........
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
    They will all have access from next year, and there's not a thing in the world you can do to stop it. :)

    Lol I see your facist sidekick is following you around thanking your posts.

    However.......

    Yes I know.

    And it will transpire that large numbers will come here - despite the Government trying to suggest that other options within the EU are open to them and all that spin.

    And my opinion is, that what happens from 2014 onwards will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. We may even have civil unrest at some point.

    I guess we will have to just wait and see.
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    edited 9 March 2013 at 8:59PM
    StevieJ wrote: »
    BiasedBBC.ORG. You can't be serious, are you a member? I have seen it all now :rotfl:

    I think you missed his point;
    A._Badger wrote: »
    The point is that she was a fake: a Labour party hack pretending to Jane Doe.

    Let me just paste it in for you one more time in case you don't quite get it;
    A._Badger wrote: »
    The point is that she was a fake: a Labour party hack pretending to Jane Doe.

    See that's the thing Stevie. She was a fake. And a bad fake a that - you could kind of tell
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    edited 9 March 2013 at 9:26PM
    Sampong wrote: »
    I think you missed his point;

    I don't think so, I can't believe anyone could set up such a pathetic website, I wonder who runs The Daily Mail one? There is one isn't there:) BTW I thought that the UKIP candidate was quite impressive, so the 'Labour plant' wasn't very successful;)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • A._Badger
    A._Badger Posts: 5,881 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    BiasedBBC.ORG. You can't be serious, are you a member? I have seen it all now :rotfl:

    Does it have 'members'? You appear to know more about it than I.

    That said, I tend to read widely. I advise you to try the same.
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    I don't think so, I can't believe anyone could set up such a pathetic website, I wonder who runs The Daily Mail one? There is one isn't there:)

    Are you sure? He made a statement that is quite clearly factual - in that she was a fake. Doesn't matter what your opinions on the particular website or whatever - it's all over the web, in fact the lady herself was tweeting before the show telling her followers to "watch her rip into the disgusting UKIP woman".

    So he merely pointed out something that was correct, in that she was a fake, a stooge, a plant - somebody who was trying to pass themselves off as a random member of the public when it fact, she was a paid Labour party activist. That is fact and you can argue until you are blue in the face - and it will still be fact.

    So again - he pointed out something that was true, and all you can come up with is child level argyments like;
    StevieJ wrote: »
    BiasedBBC.ORG. You can't be serious, are you a member? I have seen it all now :rotfl:

    Are you and chewmylegoff the same person?
    chewmylegoff wrote: »
    Seriously. No actually, are you serious?

    Seriously.....I mean can you be serious? No I really mean it now.....I mean OMG I have really really see it all now......... are you seriously serious?Do you actually have anything reasoned to say?
  • A._Badger
    A._Badger Posts: 5,881 Forumite
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    Sampong wrote: »
    I think you missed his point;

    /QUOTE]

    StevieJ didn't miss my point. He did what he always does when he's walked into a corner and can't get out. He tries to create a diversion.
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    BTW I thought that the UKIP candidate was quite impressive, so the 'Labour plant' wasn't very successful;)

    Well we actually agree on something at least then. The Labour plant was truly clueless - but Diane James handled herself very eloquently I thought.
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