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Ex taking me to county court for gifts

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  • DawnW
    DawnW Posts: 7,803 Forumite
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    OK, so he can send you letters - but you don't have to open them, or read them. Position your bin between the letterbox and wherever you read your mail, so that you can 'post' them directly into it as they arrive. Speak to someone at Uni for advice, the students union will be able to put you in touch with the relevant counsellor / advisor. Then try to get on with your life. If they do take you to court, the case will be thrown out and it will cost them money. Don't go and see him, don't speak to him or his father on the phone, change your number if necessary. If he calls round to where you are living, tell him to go away or you will call the police. Don't keep asking to see any 'evidence' - there obviously isn't any. Ignore him. The more contact you have with him, the longer this will go on. He is bullying you, so just don't fall for it. You don't have to put up with this. If he bothers you or threatens you, get back in touch with the police, and that goes for his father as well. These people get some sort of kick from this behaviour, and the reaction they are getting from you currently just makes them do it all the more. So stop reacting. Good luck with your exams.
  • ashcarrot
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    Lets look at the absolute worse case scenario, he takes you to court and wins (its not gonna happen coz he has no proof and his claims are a bit ridiculous) in that case at least everything is settled and he can't come back later on and come up with more and you've lost what he claims plus a bit for court costs (again this isn't going to happen). That would finalise your contact with him thats not too bad is it? I'd personally look forward to a court case, its not a big deal like he's making out.

    So I'd just get on with things, invite and welcome him taking you to court, he's really just trying to scare you else he would have just done it. especially bits going on about lying under oath and threatening you with perjury, its all crap and the police aren't going to be bothered about it even if he could prove it.

    I'm sure we could write you up a reply for his letters if you wanted that you could print and sign. Take this as an opportunity to deal with you anxiety you've got this idiot (you know he's bluffing or just trying to cause you grief) use it as a opportunity to show you can get over your fears etc.

    And my last point is he's only got his dad on his side, you've got us lot :)
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  • Markyt
    Markyt Posts: 11,864 Forumite
    Don't bin the letters, keep them as evidence of the harrasment if the need arises. Follow the advice above, and try not to worry about it - you have made no legal agreement for a loan and he hasn't got a leg to stand on.
  • He has no evidence of any loans or money being lent to you. If he has, he will have to send it in to the court, along with his claim. This will then be sent to you before either of you get anywhere near a court building. You can then submit your defence - you've never had any loans from him and he has no evidence to prove to the contrary. Ignore the stuff about his mum paying for driving lessons. If she says you owe her money, she'll have to take you to court herself. It can't be covered by your ex's action against you, as they are two separate individuals. She'll then have to provide evidence, too. As for perjury, his dad obviously doesn't know his !!!! from his elbow. When you appear in front of a judge, you're not sitting in a court room. You're in a small room sitting around the table. You don't take an oath! The judge asks for the facts, having already seen the evidence presented to the court (as it will already have been sent in). He'll ask questions, then make a decision. You can't perjure yourself under oath when you haven't taken an oath. Perjury is a criminal offence. It's not for your ex's dad to decide if you get done for it. Besides, if the ex can't show you owe him money, how would he be able to show that you've lied about owing him money??!! Verbal agreement? What verbal agreement? In theory verbal agreements are as contractually binding written ones. In the real world, however, verbal agreements aren't worth the paper they are written on. Like I said, what verbal agreement?

    If I were you, I would stop replying to your ex. Wait for him to issue a summons. When a summons comes through (which I doubt it will), deal with it then. Ask for evidence and submit your defence, which is that you never borrowed any money and he cannot prove otherwise. Also detail the harrassment. Kepe a diary of all contact from him or his family, and DON'T THROW THE LETTERS AWAY. Contact the police for a report on the assault on your boyfriend. If you get a hearing date, explain the harrassment to the judge, and use the letters as evidence, as well as the police report that your ex assaulted your current boyfriend. Say that your ex is doing this purely out of vindictiveness and spite.

    Most of all: STOP WORRYING. HE CAN'T DO ANYTHING AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO PAY HIM ANY MONEY. HE WILL ALSO LOSE THE COURT COSTS.

    I would see a solicitor about the harrassment, by the way. I wouldn't even wait for your ex or his dad to file against you for the money they say you owe. Harrassment includes trying to get to you through family members (i.e. your dad) and your boyfriend and friends. Using other people to harrass you also counts (i.e. using his dad to harrass you). Your boyfriend and his family are nothing more than bullies. Stand up to them. Don't let them push you around like this. Don't even think about offering to settle this without going to court. By making the offer, you're admitting you owe him money.
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  • TheWaltons_3
    TheWaltons_3 Posts: 1,203 Forumite
    Sounds like a Stalker to be.... very bitter and jealous, helped along with his family. Steer as clear as you can
  • lynzpower
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    jsut wanted to send you a hug really.

    most of the important stuff has been said by others.

    Let him take you to court. To be honest, if his dad is backing him, even funnier. What 2 grown men wanting to take you to court for defaulting on a loan you have never agreed to :rotfl: Id love to see it.

    Its not fair they are bullying and harrassing you, and to be honest, keep everything in writing, dont respond to phone calls. If they are going on about your worrying, that shows what mean-spirited scum, they are.

    Any letter you recieve, save, dont destroy.

    then on court day, get your glad rags on and give it your best smile stride in there. they dont have a case, but it will be worth turning up for a laugh :D honestly sugar, they dont have a leg to stand on xx
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  • freebird65
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    Good grief.....even though I'm not suggesting you do this, this bloke really needs a good slap!

    He and his father are cowardly, insecure bullies who are picking on someone they perceive as weaker than them - the constant references to your "worrying" show this. Do as others have already said - keep a log of all contact, keep letters for evidence and above all, stop worrying. Even if he does take it to court, he hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell, unless you send him a letter admitting anything. Which you won't.

    Get on with your life and enjoy it - as soon as this worm sees you won't be intimidated by his bullying, he'll disappear.

    Sorry for the rant, but bullies make me angry!:D
  • Keep reporting him to the police for harrasment, and collect evidence of harrasment and witness statements, crime numbers etc. Make sure you keep it factual and accurate dont be tempted to make things up. He will then get warned by the police and it should then stop.

    As for the court case, county court judges are fairly level headed people so just report the facts without any emotion or overemphasis and you should be ok. The reports to the police for harrasment may help a little bit.
  • Markyt
    Markyt Posts: 11,864 Forumite
    Start a diary. Log every call, letter, conversation you have. Record how they make you feel, what impact they are having on you and your family. A clear record of things like this will help your case if you decide to take things further.
  • regularsaver1
    regularsaver1 Posts: 4,930 Forumite
    sorry but what an apsolute T##t

    he is still really bitter over everything. he dones;t sound like a man, if he is getting his dad involved

    wouldn't this be thrown out of court if there is no evidence?

    do you know how he came to this sum of money?
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