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savageHK

delain tried a local pharmacy and the guy behind the counter was very sympathetic to the question but they only had sugar free calpol in, and then tried a Lloyd's and they thought I was nuts I think. I've had a look online and there are two online pharmacies which may have, but they may also just not be listing all their ingredients! I've asked the one what else they have in theirs, we'll see what they come back with... (I did also find paracetamol suppositories - hopefully no colours / flavours there! )

Mrshaworth2b

sunshine_1988 wrote: »

I didnt do blw....ask away xxz

Hello,

So we've been doing food now for the last 4 weeks and he's taken to it like a duck to water. From today I cut his bottles down to four and have given him 3 "meals" does this routine seen right?
8 - bottle
10 - baby rice with fruit/porridge
12 - bottle
14 - veg pur!e
16 - bottle
18 - pur!e
20 - bottle and bed

I'm hoping to eventually get him down to two bottles obviously. How long do I carry this on for? Am I even doing it right? Today he eat all the food given and only his 16:00 bottle had 40ml left. So he's had just over 800ml of bottle and 3 meals.

I felt like I was constantly feeding today, when do I know when to drop a bottle, I know not to rush it but I'm confused lol!

Thank you for helping

Gillyx

You'l know to drop a bottle when he is leaving the majority of one I'd say, same principle for BLW and puree fed. I'd let baby take the lead, unless of course he isn't eating the solids and filling up on milk

Edit: 4 bottles isn't loads when you consider puree veg/fruit isn't that calorific, so he may still need the milk. hth xx

*Nutella*

MrsH, that looks good to me - although there's only one little man who can determine whether you're doing it 'right' If he seems happy and healthy and not hungry, then it's all good We dropped from 4 to 3 bottles when LO was eight and a half months; the one we dropped then was the mid-morning one, and we replaced it with a snack. A month or so later we dropped the afternoon bottle and replaced that too with a snack. She still has her morning and evening bottles (then 180ml x 2; now 150ml x 2).

I too struggled with when to drop from 4 to 3 bottles - the reason we did it when we did was that LO started nursery, so I switched to their routine at home. In the baby room (which takes children from 6 months upwards), this is what they do (just in case it's helpful):

(at home: morning milk)
7.30-9: Breakfast (whenever the child arrives) - toast, porridge, weetabix depending on age and ability
10: Snack. Usually something like breadstick and fruit
11.30/11.45: Hot lunch with pudding. Pureed/mashed for the little ones, lumpier for the older ones
2: Bottle for those that still have one, a snack if needed for everyone else
4: Dinner without pudding (again, pureed/mashed or lumpy)

My LO then has a yoghurt and half a banana when she gets home at 6, and then her bottle before bed.

You could maybe stick to what you're doing for another month or so, and then try to replace the mid-morning/noon bottle with a snack? You could maybe start introducing finger foods during that time to give you more snack options? Alternatively, you might find that he starts being less fussed about one of the bottles and regularly leaves some milk in it - then that's the one to cut first. Either lower the quantity and give him a bit more solids, or try cutting it out altogether and replace it with a snack. He'll let you know if he's not happy

Mrshaworth2b

Gillyx wrote: »

You'l know to drop a bottle when he is leaving the majority of one I'd say, same principle for BLW and puree fed. I'd let baby take the lead, unless of course he isn't eating the solids and filling up on milk

Edit: 4 bottles isn't loads when you consider puree veg/fruit isn't that calorific, so he may still need the milk. hth xx

I thought this, but speaking to my hv she said some babies will have it all? So when I said that he was having 5, 210ml bottles and two decent meals she said to cut him down, hence the 4 bottles and 3 meals. However she then contradicted herself and said you will find one bottle he is rubbish with, that is the one to cut out! Lol!

Gillyx

Mrshaworth2b wrote: »

I thought this, but speaking to my hv she said some babies will have it all? So when I said that he was having 5, 210ml bottles and two decent meals she said to cut him down, hence the 4 bottles and 3 meals. However she then contradicted herself and said you will find one bottle he is rubbish with, that is the one to cut out! Lol!

I'm a big believer in being baby led whether that's with puree or finger foods and I think as soon as he doesn't want it anymore you'l know

Even spoon fed babies will let you know when they've had enough, they'l purse there lips, turn there head away etc so I wouldn't worry too much. At 6.5/7 months, 4 bottles is still ok I'd say. Milk is the main source of nutrition until 12 months anyway.

I think what you're doing sounds great x

sunshine_1988

Mrshaworth2b wrote: »

Hello,

So we've been doing food now for the last 4 weeks and he's taken to it like a duck to water. From today I cut his bottles down to four and have given him 3 "meals" does this routine seen right?
8 - bottle
10 - baby rice with fruit/porridge
12 - bottle
14 - veg pur!e
16 - bottle
18 - pur!e
20 - bottle and bed

I'm hoping to eventually get him down to two bottles obviously. How long do I carry this on for? Am I even doing it right? Today he eat all the food given and only his 16:00 bottle had 40ml left. So he's had just over 800ml of bottle and 3 meals.

I felt like I was constantly feeding today, when do I know when to drop a bottle, I know not to rush it but I'm confused lol!

Thank you for helping

Hey
Looks like you, and him, are doing a fab job. To be honest, its all trial and error with dropping the feeds, or at least thats what I found.
If he is still guzzling away all his feeds for mid morning and mid afternoon, perhaps try giving him a little more solids and seeing if he leaves a bit of milk. Alternatively, increase the solids or offer a snack as an addition to the above, and decrease the amount of milk you are making up.

I can't remember the exact age Aiden was when I dropped from 4 to 3, but when he started nursery at almost 10 months, he was only on 2 bottles.
Your little man will let you know if he needs his milk or not, if you are confident he has taken enough milk in the mornings, you could always try just not bothering with the milk, unless of course he lets you know he wants it!

I know its worrying that you might be doing things 'wrong' but trust me, you are doing just fine. I used to always ask my HV at weigh in clinic, purely for my own reassurance really! But I know some people on here haven't had the best HV's, mine was lovely though. And of course, we are here to offer any advice!

Hey guys funny day here for my little monkey, he sobbed when I dropped him at nursery which broke my heart he has been going for 10 months now and usually loves running off but today for some reason he didn't want me to go. I called them at 9:30 and they said he was in the ball pit and was happy as anything, so who knows!
Had to pop to the shop after work and he was a monkey in there, I let him walk and he somehow picked up a Mickey Mouse magazine, I had no intention of buying it as he would rip it to shreds and I only had a fiver on me for the fruit and milk I needed. So I took it off him and picked him up, and he said 'MINE' and slapped me in the face :eek::eek: I was not impressed, it caught me right on the nose and made my eyes water!! I didn't really know what to do as he has never done anything like that before, I just kept hold of him, squirming and everything, and paid. He was chatting away in the car on the way home so I just carried on as normal with him and chatted back....wrong thing to do?!

Re meals, I have always had an issue with the amount Aiden eats. He eats such small amounts really, when he is going through a growth spurt he will eat everything, but usually its just probably the amount of a weetabix, possibly a weetabix and a half. I used to worry he was still hungry and offer him anything and everything in the hope he would eat something, then I realised that if he was already eating some of it then he was probably full. So now I give him his pudding and perhaps an extra bit of fruit with it and leave it at that. If he has eaten a really small amount, I offer something before bed but 9 times out of 10 he doesn't want anything else. Its just the way he is and thats fine with me I don't have a huge appetite and am more of a grazer so he must be too.

Wow guys, mammoth post. Sorry first time I have been on the laptop for ages!!

xxx

*Nutella*

Sunshine, that sounds like a bit of a shock My LO has hit me in the face a couple of times - what I do is take her hand and say 'NO - no hitting. Be gentle' and then move her hand gently over my face to show her a more acceptable way of touching other people. I've adopted this method because I watched the nursery staff do this with another child, so I thought I'd stick to the same way of dealing with it for consistency's sake. No idea if it's the best thing to do though - it's so hard to know what's going to be most effective!

Whilst we're on the issue of parenting dilemmas - the other thing I struggle with sometimes is when she throws her beaker on the floor whilst eating. She does it if she doesn't want water at that exact moment - but then she does of course want water five seconds later and screams and points at the beaker which is on the floor! Do I just pick it up and give it to her as if nothing happened? Do I say something when she throws it? It's not like I'm not going to give her water if she wants it, but it's hard to know what to do for the best Any thoughts, anyone?

Gillyx

Hmmm A is similar in that he doesn't want it on the tray unless he's thirsty so we have to keep it on the table and then he reaches over for it, fun and games now we use an open cup I'll tell you

I would just keep showing her where it's to go when she doesn't want it etc, and praising her if she doesn't throw it and of course give her it if she is thirsty! xx

Mrshaworth2b

Thank you Nutella, gilly and sunshine.

Feel like I'm back to a newborn, feeding every couple of hours. But hoping the way he's enjoying his food now it won't be long until we can drop a feed. Taken 2 hrs for my lo to get to sleep in his crib. Ended up in our bed on his side to drop off, then I put him in his crib, anything to help him get through this cold I say!