Moving is expensive, regarding bedroom tax

JaneDoe_2

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cockaleekee

JaneDoe wrote: »

Oh right having a "pot shot" at me, ok don't need to explain myself. It's not for me I live in a bought house and am a Registered Nurse Ok!!! I know plenty of people being forced from their homes. I also know why they want these houses.

Apologies, your question implied you were asking for yourself. I shall rephrase:

cockaleekee wrote: »

But why does anyone feel they deserve to be paid to move, when thousands of people have to do so every year with no financial assistance?

ILW

JaneDoe wrote: »

NO, what a stupid thing to say. Moving is expensive, I haven't even mentioned decorating and gardening. Not right people are being forced from their homes, cause that's what they are HOMES!!! Moved to scummy areas and having to fix up a new place, if they can afford it or are physically able too.

Just like people who pay their own way have to do. Why should those on benefits be treated better?
Odd the way some cannot understand the concept of living within ones means.

kwmlondon

Just a few thoughts:
Many have to move regularly as they rent privately, do take that into account.
Many people find it hard to get a job because they are older/sick, this does make it hard to move. If a local authority makes people relocate they should do a basic assessment to see if the person needs help.
Let's not punish kids for their parents bad choices - if a family has a good support network (family, friends close by) it makes it easier for the parent/s to get work and the kids are less likely to grow up into trouble - and don't we all want less crime and fewer damaged young people?

ILW

kwmlondon wrote: »

Just a few thoughts:
Many have to move regularly as they rent privately, do take that into account.
Many people find it hard to get a job because they are older/sick, this does make it hard to move. If a local authority makes people relocate they should do a basic assessment to see if the person needs help.
Let's not punish kids for their parents bad choices - if a family has a good support network (family, friends close by) it makes it easier for the parent/s to get work and the kids are less likely to grow up into trouble - and don't we all want less crime and fewer damaged young people?

Best way to do that is to stop giving financial rewards to the lazy and unemployable for breeding more of the same.

Poppie68

kwmlondon wrote: »

Just a few thoughts:
Many have to move regularly as they rent privately, do take that into account.
Many people find it hard to get a job because they are older/sick, this does make it hard to move. If a local authority makes people relocate they should do a basic assessment to see if the person needs help.
Let's not punish kids for their parents bad choices - if a family has a good support network (family, friends close by) it makes it easier for the parent/s to get work and the kids are less likely to grow up into trouble - and don't we all want less crime and fewer damaged young people?

Can't understand what this has to do with someone saying they need help with moving costs?
Also home owners fall sick or lose their jobs and either have their homes repossed or move to a cheaper property who helps them with moving costs? No one!

kwmlondon

ILW wrote: »

Best way to do that is to stop giving financial rewards to the lazy and unemployable for breeding more of the same.

Thanks for sharing your point of view. I have to disagree.

Every day I cycle through London. I go through some -ish areas in Bermondsey. I am sometimes a bit wary of the groups of kids. If we stopped caring about these kids they would stop being something I was a bit wary of and become a major blights on the whole country.

The fact is that it's like maintaining the roads - someone has to pay and it's to everyone's benefit we do a decent job.

We can either pay for more police, more jails (and each prisoner costs £37,000 a year) and live in total fear or we can spend a bit more money at the start of their lives and have people who have jobs, earn taxes and contribute to society.

Educated people with prospects don't want to live on benefits surrounded by kids.

I'd rather see more schools, sure start programmes, play centres, after school clubs and parents centres than jails. I just think they're nicer.

kwmlondon

Poppie68 wrote: »

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Can't understand what this has to do with someone saying they need help with moving costs?
Also home owners fall sick or lose their jobs and either have their homes repossed or move to a cheaper property who helps them with moving costs? No one!

They should do though. If David Cameron's big society idea had taken off we'd all chip in and help people out individually - I mean, that's what we do for our friends isn't it?

nannytone_2

ILW wrote: »

Just like people who pay their own way have to do. Why should those on benefits be treated better?
Odd the way some cannot understand the concept of living within ones means.

unemployable?

which people do you regard as the unemployable?

ILW

kwmlondon wrote: »

Thanks for sharing your point of view. I have to disagree.

Every day I cycle through London. I go through some -ish areas in Bermondsey. I am sometimes a bit wary of the groups of kids. If we stopped caring about these kids they would stop being something I was a bit wary of and become a major blights on the whole country.

The fact is that it's like maintaining the roads - someone has to pay and it's to everyone's benefit we do a decent job.

We can either pay for more police, more jails (and each prisoner costs £37,000 a year) and live in total fear or we can spend a bit more money at the start of their lives and have people who have jobs, earn taxes and contribute to society.

Educated people with prospects don't want to live on benefits surrounded by kids.

I'd rather see more schools, sure start programmes, play centres, after school clubs and parents centres than jails. I just think they're nicer.

So you think that bribing inadequate parents to have more kids is a good idea then?