Bedroom Tax and kids living away??

tescobabe69

Dunroamin wrote: »

Also, child related benefits are given to spend on the child, not on paying the mortgage, so I don't see how this is relevant.

What ? eighty quid a week on a kid ? EVERY week.

pipkin71

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

I know that you don't find it patronising I didn't expect the "regulars" to agree with me but then that is because you are in this "bubble" of a message board and I am looking in sorry if that sounds patronising.

You doll out advice when it isn't asked for, which seems to extend to telling others how they should live their lifes It's a fine line I appreciate that and I'm sure much of it is well intentioned.

So what you're saying is it's okay for you to come across as patronising, but not ok for anyone else to say anything that you feel is patronising because they are in a 'bubble'of a message board?

Got you.

mysterywoman10

nannytone wrote: »

what youre doing is far worse. youre sitting back and just accepting the injustices that are happening.

you may see it as we are putting up barriers or making excuses.

but for many people, they arent excuses, they are realities.
and if we dont fight to help one another, and especially those worse off than ourselves..
we are complicit with the people making the cuts and in fact giving them the power to leep making them.... because they think that by your silence, they also have your backing!

Very true Nanny.

mysterywoman10

pipkin71 wrote: »

So what you're saying is it's okay for you to come across as patronising, but not ok for anyone else to say anything that you feel is patronising because they are in a 'bubble'of a message board?

Got you.

Of course but you are in a bubble all long term message boarders are. I know because I've done it myself ! And it's very addictive

nannytone_2

Mojisola wrote: »

It will become more difficult for many people and it won't feel "fair". While protesting and trying to make things better is worth doing, so is adjusting your own life in case things stay bad or even get worse.

I have been too ill to work for many years and that is going to affect our retirement. We would normally have expected to stay in our family home during our retirement but we have not been able to save what we planned to because we have had to live off one income.

We could stay here because "it's our right" and feel hard done by or we can look to ways to change things so that we can live as happily as possible within our means.

i feel for your situation.
if i was still living with my ex partner, moving would have been ok for me too. i wouldnt have been somewhere new totally on my own, and as a couple, you obviously give emotional and mental support.

when YOU are your only support it is much more difficult to even consider.

i have planned for these changes, and im getting sick of saying that i WILL manage.

im not just sitting here thinkin 'woe is me' and waiting for someone to come and rescue me!
i am and will continue to be ok!

but not everyone will be.
and as a soxiety we shouldnt be just be teling them to 'suck it up'.
we should be offering support and trying to highlight the injustices that are certainly going to happen

pipkin71

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

Of course but you are in a bubble all long term message boarders are. I know because I've done it myself ! And it's very addictive

:rotfl::rotfl:

Sorry, I shouldn't laugh, but seriously.

You've been here every time I've logged on recently, but I'm the one in a bubble

nannytone_2

ab.da54 wrote: »

You are wrong.

I have also been proactive in trying to make the powers that be listen to the concerns that the most vulnerable will suffer.

I have not been silent, however, the forum is for chat not change.

What I will say though, is that the most vulnerable have not necessarily been posting on here. Somr of those who have, those who are putting up barriers and making statements that others should suffer but not themselves, are really not helping the cause because people see through excuses.

I will continue to lend my support to try and ensure that the most vulnerable do not suffer but please, please do not continue to point out that all disabled people are living on the breadline and only just surviving because we both know that that will not be the case.

i wanst aware that this forum was a chat room.
i thought it was for advice.
and possibly even to allow people with the same issues and ideas to be able to offer support.
support can be just words, but for many, just hearing 'that is how it is so either go live in a tent or pay up' is cold comfort.

through forums like this, people can be informed of what action others may ne taking and so lend support.
a thousand voices in unison will always attract more attention than a thousand individuals svreaming in their showers!

ab.da54

nannytone wrote: »

i wanst aware that this forum was a chat room.
i thought it was for advice.
and possibly even to allow people with the same issues and ideas to be able to offer support.
support can be just words, but for many, just hearing 'that is how it is so either go live in a tent or pay up' is cold comfort.

through forums like this, people can be informed of what action others may ne taking and so lend support.
a thousand voices in unison will always attract more attention than a thousand individuals svreaming in their showers!

If it was for advice, threads like these - threads you have been joining in with - would have been closed a while ago.

This has not been a thread of support, it has been one of chat, as you well know.

Mojisola

nannytone wrote: »

i am and will continue to be ok!

but not everyone will be.

and as a soxiety we shouldnt be just be teling them to 'suck it up'.

we should be offering support and trying to highlight the injustices that are certainly going to happen

I think plenty of people are highlighting the injustices but a society can only pay out what it can afford and those affected need to make changes as best they can.

For example, if we were forced into a one-bedroom flat, we would have to make the sitting room into a second bedroom. It wouldn't be nice not to have a sitting room but having a good night's sleep is more important so we would have to manage.

Some vulnerable people are going to be so badly affected that their cases may force changes to the rules by embarrassing the politicians into a U turn.

bestpud

Is it check mate again?