Bedroom Tax and kids living away??

ab.da54

nannytone wrote: »

not all people with life altering disabilities attract the high rates of benefit!

ESA WRAG is £99 a week, and when you are looking at prolonged periods of time on this income ... life is hard
i know rent anf council tax benefit are additional benefits, but they dont keep you lights working or food in your belly.

£99 per week is money that someone is given freely. Almost £400 per month without the worry of rent and council tax [before now]is not to be sniffed at.

If the under 25 unemployed person manages on around £50 odd per week, someone on £99 is not doing so bad.

evenasus

SandraScarlett wrote: »

I know many pensioners, like myself, who don't qualify for Pension Credit, and the associated benefits, who were prudent, during their working lives, and built up modest nest eggs for their retirement.

The interest that they used to get from these savings, provided extra funds to supplement their pensions. With the bank rate sinking like a stone, these have been cut from 6% to 1% or less, meaning £10,000 in savings, which used to yield £600, now yields less than £100.

Maybe we should start a petition Sandra - or talk of street protests.

But of course, we just put up with it. Well OK, we may have a moan about it but that's all we do.

Dunroamin

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

She might be an aethiest!!

Sorry I really find this post a bit patronising

I don't see why it's patronising.

Nanny's always saying how active she is in her community and how she has to live there because all her friends and support network are there so I don't understand how she can also say that she's isolated and needs to spend money in order to have any kind of social life.

You can't have it both ways.

nannytone_2

i dont say i am acitive in the community.
i am active in DCIK, that doesnt mean attending groups and mass meetings.
i have several really good friends who live near me, but i have never been one to live in other peoples pockets.
yes my support is here, because it is my local counil that funds my PA. if i dont live in this localty, then i dont get funding!

im am neither a party animal or a hermit.
im like most people and sit somewhere i between

ab.da54

Dunroamin wrote: »

I don't see why it's patronising.

Nanny's always saying how active she is in her community and how she has to live there because all her friends and support network are there so I don't understand how she can also say that she's isolated and needs to spend money in order to have any kind of social life.

You can't have it both ways.

I was confused and beginning to think I was associating nannytone with another poster.

I do struggle to see why it is patronising though. I mean, I get that not everyone is religious, so a Sunday service may not be appropriate but churches also hold events that are not religion based.

Our group of churches had one recently about living in a multicultural area and how we could all live in harmony. People of all different faiths attended, from what I have been told. I don't think any found it patronising.

Dunroamin

ab.da54 wrote: »

I was confused and beginning to think I was associating nannytone with another poster.

I do struggle to see why it is patronising though. I mean, I get that not everyone is religious, so a Sunday service may not be appropriate but churches also hold events that are not religion based.

Our group of churches had one recently about living in a multicultural area and how we could all live in harmony. People of all different faiths attended, from what I have been told. I don't think any found it patronising.

No, you're not confused.

When it's suggested that Nanny moves somewhere with 1 bed flats and employment opportunities then the area she lives in has all her friends and support network. Next day she's isolated and there's nothing to do there that doesn't cost money.

Sometimes it's hard to keep up.

pipkin71

ab.da54 wrote: »

I was confused and beginning to think I was associating nannytone with another poster.

I do struggle to see why it is patronising though. I mean, I get that not everyone is religious, so a Sunday service may not be appropriate but churches also hold events that are not religion based.

Our group of churches had one recently about living in a multicultural area and how we could all live in harmony. People of all different faiths attended, from what I have been told. I don't think any found it patronising.

It wasn't patronising, imo.

I don't think suggestions on how to change one's life are always welcome, though

mysterywoman10

Dunroamin wrote: »

I don't see why it's patronising.

Nanny's always saying how active she is in her community and how she has to live there because all her friends and support network are there so I don't understand how she can also say that she's isolated and needs to spend money in order to have any kind of social life.

You can't have it both ways.

Did she ask for advice though on how she should fill her time was my point?

Anyway FATE is a very strange thing, I've been to the supermarket and bumped into a very nice visually impaired gentlemen who was using a video magnifyer so he could do his own shopping and see the labels. It cost him £450 and he saved up for two years from his DLA. Chatting to other half and he said in some areas they do provide them free but no other aids but its very rare, another postcode lottery.

We also got into a conversation about how most jobs for disabled people were at the higher end of the job market. Particularly blind people, especially now admin jobs have more or less disappeared i.e. touch/audio typing etc. As he rightly pointed out you couldn't have blind bus driver or electrician could you?! Some people years ago he managed to get in jobs in engineering but again a falling jobs market area.

Then as I was coming back up my street a very nice neighbor who used to run our local Social Service respite care unit for children with severe disabiities, we had a chat as I don't see her very often. She is starting a new home for (private) for children with severe and challenging behavior as the LA's cannot cope with the numbers that our coming into care. I asked her what she thought effect the bedroom tax would have on this and I'm afraid she said "it will increase pressures on families that already are struggling to cope and I am totally opposed to it". They don't get the support they need as it is and asking them to find work on top it just isn't possible in many cases. We mean help with trying to cope here not just money. Another question do you think "economic times generally are having an effect on these families" and causing numbers to rise going into care? Yes abolutely it's a fight for everything.

List of things parents have to pay for :

If you look in any special needs toys catalogue I think it will give you an idea of the cost of toys!! Astronimical.

Deposits for mobility vehicles to meet the need of a family i.e. wheelchair assessible, many families do not get help with the deposit even if on HB especially if working. This can run into thousands.

Special beds again not always supplied

Special buggies again not always supplied although some authorities will give vouchers.

Cost of activities for trying to give their disabled children some quality of life

Cost to their own health in going for years without a good nights sleep, coping with the stresses of it all

Difficult to keep a job when the child is often very ill, in hospital or not able to go to school

The list is endless really, but hey lets make their lifes in private and SH more dificult take £14 off them and make them pay council tax.

For every one child that goes into care it will cost at least £100,000 per annum.

ab.da54

pipkin71 wrote: »

It wasn't patronising, imo.

I don't think suggestions on how to change one's life are always welcome, though

That is a shame as there's always the possibility that one could improve on one's life, no matter what difficulties are faced, when the mind and ears are opened up.

nannytone_2

ab.da54 wrote: »

£99 per week is money that someone is given freely. Almost £400 per month without the worry of rent and council tax [before now]is not to be sniffed at.

If the under 25 unemployed person manages on around £50 odd per week, someone on £99 is not doing so bad.

and i have said MAMY times that there others in far worse positions!
but £99 a week is not a kings ransom, and long term when white goods furniture wears out and neds replacing ...its a severe strain.
many will be losing £20 a week with the rent and council tax changes.

and just because SOME are worse off, doesnt mean that the person on £99 isnt going to struggle to male emds meet