Bedroom Tax and kids living away??

mysterywoman10

ab.da54 wrote: »

I understand how DLA can soon be eaten up but DLA will not be the only money coming into the house.

I would not like to be in a position where I have a severey disabled child but them I would not like to be in my position either and, fact is, that is the hand that has been dealt and we have to live with that, manage the best we can.

It's not easy.

I can't imagine it's easy for parents with disabled children.

That said, DLA will not be the only income coming in and those who receive the full range of benefits are not on the breadline. Sorry if that offends but benefits in this country are quite generous as a single disabled person and, I imagine, where there are two children in a family with severe disabilities, as you suggested, making up the shortfall in housing benefits will not see them starving and on the streets, even if they do have to now cut back.

No you do not offend you are entitled to your view point.

I think the point I was making is carers are doing a "job" which saves the state a considerable amount of money a vast amount of money. It is the only "benefit" you actually have to "work" for at a very low rate. So if you times out those benefits in relation to the number of hours they actually work ....it represents very good value for money. In comparison to a child being taken into residential care.

What you are asking this group to do is really take a cut in pay but they must also find a job as well on top of the one they are already doing.

ab.da54

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

She might be an aethiest!!

Sorry I really find this post a bit patronising

If she is an aetheist, then the suggestion doesn't apply.

A thought on a chat forum does not imply it is something someone must do, merely a suggestion.

She may, afterall be a muslim too and so the advice would be mute.

As I said though, the social groups put on by some churches are not just a religious thing so I do not feel it is patronising in the least.

If someone says they will be isolated and someone makes suggestions, they do not need to be acted on but at least there is an option given.

nannytone_2

ab.da54 wrote: »

I could be mistaken, but I thought you said recently in a thread that you are very supportive in your local commuinity, so I assume you are known in the community, have friends and therefore see people.

Since meeting up with people can be a free event, how will it make you more isolated?

Have you thought about attending your local church group?

People at the church can be very supportive - offer lifts to people so that they can get to church and it isn't just about becoming religious but there are often social groups connected to churches.

Have you a ring and ride service in your area?

Are there other social groups - the WI, for instance?

You don't have to be isolated, nor do you have to spend money to see people.

the organisation i am involvedwith, has had its funding drastically cut. we now have no local ( by local .... our group covered about a 30 mile radius... so only one really severly disbled person in my area. i do visit him, but he is unable to leave his (2 bed) home)
i do suppose there are groups in my area that i could join, but i would still need to get to where they are vased. my main difficulty is getting anywhere! ( only in low rate mibility)
i have a PA wgo is funded for 22 hours a week. i pay her expenseswhich uses up my FLA entitlemexnt. i cant expect her to be on call 24 hoyrs a day.
most of my friends arent disabled. but they have families of their own, and tend to spend the veening with their husbands and children.
the main social activity of an evening is going to the pub, which has never appealed to me.

i accept that i am alone most evenings. but these vuts will impact on any activities i can do during the day too.
so obviously i will be more isolated, if i cant afford to take part

SandraScarlett

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

Or receive Disability benefits when living in their own home? Is this not then if you follow the logic of it all getting money from the state to help them?

When someone suggested on another thread that nannytone could use some of her DLA towards paying for her spare room in a rented home, there was uproar that this was even suggested.

But you're now suggesting that owner occupiers are/have been repaying their mortgage with the aid of DLA!

xx

ab.da54

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

No you do not offend you are entitled to your view point.

I think the point I was making is carers are doing a "job" which saves the state a considerable amount of money a vast amount of money. It is the only "benefit" you actually have to "work" for at a very low rate. So if you times out those benefits in relation to the number of hours they actually work ....it represents very good value for money. In comparison to a child being taken into residential care.

What you are asking this group to do is really take a cut in pay but they must also find a job as well on top of the one they are already doing.

Lots of people are taking pay cuts, having wages frozen, facing increases in petrol costs to even get to work.

Carers do a fantastic job and that should not be taken away from them but a family where there are two severely disabled children in the family, will not only be in receipt of DLA and carer's allowance and, therefore, are not on the breadline.

There is an excuse for everything it seems, without accepting personal responsibility.

nannytone_2

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

She might be an aethiest!!

Sorry I really find this post a bit patronising

im agnostic actually!
i dont believe in god but also dont deny his existance!

plum2002

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I think in the 70s or early 80s.

Ah, before my time :cool:

ab.da54

nannytone wrote: »

the organisation i am involvedwith, has had its funding drastically cut. we now have no local ( by local .... our group covered about a 30 mile radius... so only one really severly disbled person in my area. i do visit him, but he is unable to leave his (2 bed) home)
i do suppose there are groups in my area that i could join, but i would still need to get to where they are vased. my main difficulty is getting anywhere! ( only in low rate mibility)
i have a PA wgo is funded for 22 hours a week. i pay her expenseswhich uses up my FLA entitlemexnt. i cant expect her to be on call 24 hoyrs a day.
most of my friends arent disabled. but they have families of their own, and tend to spend the veening with their husbands and children.
the main social activity of an evening is going to the pub, which has never appealed to me.

i accept that i am alone most evenings. but these vuts will impact on any activities i can do during the day too.
so obviously i will be more isolated, if i cant afford to take part

However, if you are well known in your community and, as you said, you are supportive within your community, you must therefore know people local to you.

Social events do not just have to mean a visit to the pub.

How about becoming proactive and starting a group?

If things are isolating for you, perhaps others feel the same?

nannytone_2

i never said i was well known in my community!

i also have mild aspergers, and apart from a few close friends, i really struggle to socialise!
the fact that i write to my MP about things that concern me ( and should really concern everyone) doesnt mean that i am on the street corner making speecches and ralleying the troops!
i was a member od DCIL, but its nearest meeting place is now over 30 miles away.
i keep in touch via the telephone, but as i am only able to get out and about for 22 hours a week, i prefer to use that time for other things that i have to doit is my ability to live a norma;ish life that is going to be impacted... not the time i can go out partying and making merry!

ab.da54

mysterywoman10 wrote: »

She might be an aethiest!!

Sorry I really find this post a bit patronising

If a parent said that her 10 year old was feeling isolated, would it be patronising to suggest she might join her local brownies group?