Green Deal MSE Guide Discussion

scouser_down_under

Hi

Can somebody recommend a decent green deal approved installer in the Wiltshire/Hampshire area. I'm looking to get a condensing boiler fitted to replace electric storage heaters but it seems every company I go to are quoting pretty extortionate prices - British Gas £6,800, other local green deal approved companies £6,300. To me it seems that Green Deal approved installers uses the new scheme as a reason to add £1,000 to the quote price.

Any help much appreciated.

pathsofdarkness

From Friday 25th July the amount available for external solid wall insulation is being reduced from £6,000 to £4,000.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/green-deal-home-improvement-fund-reaches-50-million-milestone-in-six-weeks

I'm trying to get some quotes in by Thursday so that I can make my application for the voucher. Thus far the price seems to range £90 to £100 (ex VAT) per square meter and I've got 132 square meters to cover, am hoping there will be room to negotiate (I'm terrible at negotiating)

Weave

Hi

I previously had a quote of £1500 to replace my combi with a new one in same position. I have also seen similar prices online today. Existing boiler is Ferolli F30 which I believe is D rated at 78% efficiency. Boiler is about 10 years old, pressure fluctuates as something wrong with it but still works although the on/off ignition switch has snapped off so has to be reignited with a screw driver in the missing switch hole (fortunately I have only had to do this once)!

I am based in Nuneaton Warwickshire if that's relevant.

I have the following questions if anyone can assist -
1) Will change from D rated to A rated boiler mean I qualify for green deal cash back?
2) Green Deal keeps referring to two improvements will get up to £1000 cash back. Can you get the full £1000 for just one improvement or must there be two?
3) Is a green deal registered installer likely to quote at £1500 today for swapping boilers or are they likely to charge more for some reason?

Thanks for your help. I don't want to pay for the assessment to find out I don't qualify or it will cost more in total than the £1500 net price already quoted.

captainhindsight_2

Weave wrote: »

Hi

I previously had a quote of £1500 to replace my combi with a new one in same position. I have also seen similar prices online today. Existing boiler is Ferolli F30 which I believe is D rated at 78% efficiency. Boiler is about 10 years old, pressure fluctuates as something wrong with it but still works although the on/off ignition switch has snapped off so has to be reignited with a screw driver in the missing switch hole (fortunately I have only had to do this once)!

I am based in Nuneaton Warwickshire if that's relevant.

I have the following questions if anyone can assist -
1) Will change from D rated to A rated boiler mean I qualify for green deal cash back? green deal cashback has ended, it is now the home improvement fund.
2) Green Deal keeps referring to two improvements will get up to £1000 cash back. Can you get the full £1000 for just one improvement or must there be two? no you must install two from a list of 12
3) Is a green deal registered installer likely to quote at £1500 today for swapping boilers or are they likely to charge more for some reason?
see below
Thanks for your help. I don't want to pay for the assessment to find out I don't qualify or it will cost more in total than the £1500 net price already quoted.

See above you have to have 2 of the list of 12, the best option is to get a boiler and flue gas hear recovery.

Ferolli don't make a flue gas heat recovery, so you will be looking at a vaillant, glow-worm or ideal.

Ideal is prob the cheapest, vaillant prob the best value.

You should be looking at around £2500 for the vaillant with flue gas heat recovery then you get the cashback so end cost around £1500.

So end cost is £100 less for a better boiler.

Weave

Makes sense, thanks for your valuable input.

Weave

I have been trying to get quotes from a green deal registered installers using the home improvement cash back deal. I need a new boiler with heat recovery flue. This morning the people I am speaking to are telling me that as of 05 August 2014 the rules are changing and I can no longer have the heat recovery flue as my second efficiency improving measure.


Can anyone confirm or supply more details on this. One guy suggested I could try and get the survey done and voucher issued before the deadline and it will be valid for 6 months to get it installed. Another said it has to be installed by this deadline which is not realistic given its a week from next Monday.


Anyone know anything about this?


Thanks.

lstar337

LOL, Green Deal!

As soon as people start to understand the game, they start moving the goal posts.

davemorton

Weave wrote: »

I have been trying to get quotes from a green deal registered installers using the home improvement cash back deal. I need a new boiler with heat recovery flue. This morning the people I am speaking to are telling me that as of 05 August 2014 the rules are changing and I can no longer have the heat recovery flue as my second efficiency improving measure.


Can anyone confirm or supply more details on this. One guy suggested I could try and get the survey done and voucher issued before the deadline and it will be valid for 6 months to get it installed. Another said it has to be installed by this deadline which is not realistic given its a week from next Monday.


Anyone know anything about this?


Thanks.

Apparently yes, it does change then, but I believe if you can get your voucher before then, it is valid for fitting after that date. I have just started looking today, stupid me leaving everything to the last minute. Got someone coming out on Monday to give me a quote, and just waiting to hear from an assessor for when they can come out. It might be a bit tight :eek:

captainhindsight_2

davemorton wrote: »

Apparently yes, it does change then, but I believe if you can get your voucher before then, it is valid for fitting after that date. I have just started looking today, stupid me leaving everything to the last minute. Got someone coming out on Monday to give me a quote, and just waiting to hear from an assessor for when they can come out. It might be a bit tight :eek:

Make sure you apply asap. They have closed applications today for the reduction in the swi cashback 5 hours early than they said they would

Alias_Omega

Buying a house, the boiler is 25+ years old. Old immersion heater type etc. Its not a back boiler, instead its floor mounted in the dining room, it makes a nice corner unit. The cost to replace to a Combi is probably somewhat £1800 ishy. If the energy savings are £50 a year, it will take me 36 years to break even, and by then I need another new boiler.

Home Improvement Fund...really hard to understand...