Baby items you couldn't live without (up to six months) 28 January 2013 at 2:33PM in MoneySaving mums 73 replies 12.2K views

notanewuser

Jumperoo/hip dysplasia links

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Trazy

notanewuser wrote: »

Or pile up cushions to make a nest instead.

Haven't bumbos been recalled for safety reasons?

They are only being recalled because of the stupidity of some people, these should be used with adult supervision and should never be put on tables, work surfaces etc

LegalBlonde

I wanted to come back to say, for the sake of any new mothers or mothers to be who are new to all this whether lurking or not, I posted that the referral to circle of neglect was hilarious as I presumed too it must be a joke.

To say that a particular baby item/toy/gadget is anything to do with neglect isn't very nice to the posters on here who probably use it. (I believe being nice is one of the starting points for this forum).

As this thread has had 42 replies and 1,615 views, I am betting there are alot of new mothers or M2B lurking.

To say something that might make them feel in any way awful about what they do with their baby isn't very nice. My baby is 8 months now and it is only now I am starting to feel like my old self and I mean old self like pre pregnancy, pre TTC, a normal adult who can look at things logically.

Let me tell you my baby is bright, alert, happy, outgoing and sociable and she has been in a jumperoo (this apparent instrument of neglect) from 6 months. Of course I limit her time in there but from my point of view it has been an absolute and utter godsend. In fact it changed my life. The first afternoon she was in there to try it out was the longest I had ever gone not holding her when she was awake. I have spent days walking round with her before this to stop her crying. Literally, days. I would eat a quick breakfast when she was asleep in the morning (creeping round not to wake her) and lunch made by my OH while holding her. I would make dinner when my OH came home and took over. She would not lie in her crib, in her pram or on a playmat without screaming. Neglect would be letting her have exhausted parents who literally could not go on.

Yes I thought I would be one of these mothers who BF for ages (I stopped at 6 months), sling wearing, puree blending, child attachment earth mothers but unfortunately I am too poor time and money wise for any of this.

She absolutely loves her Jumperoo and loves to jump in it and see the music and lights. Why would I take this away from her? She is crawling and pulling herself up when not in the jumperoo just fine.

All I wanted to say was we all have our opinions, I am not arguing with you to be pro Jumperoo and I am at the stage with all this baby market stuff now that I don't actually care if someone thinks that about me but to describe something as neglect when it might be just the thing keeping a poor new mother sane isn't very nice. So to anyone reading unsure about Jumperoo I just wanted to give my side.

As if this is neglect. Would you like it if I described your godsend playmat as a rectangle of neglect? Or anything else that anyone uses, we are all here with one thing in common - babies - and we all know how hard and confusing it is.

By the way, take it from someone who knows, hip dysplasia is congenital :question::question::question::think:

notanewuser

LegalBlonde wrote: »

I wanted to come back to say, for the sake of any new mothers or mothers to be who are new to all this whether lurking or not, I posted that the referral to circle of neglect was hilarious as I presumed too it must be a joke.

It is a joke! (Well, in most cases it is.) That's how it was known in our ante-natal group. We weren't being total cows!

LegalBlonde wrote: »

To say that a particular baby item/toy/gadget is anything to do with neglect isn't very nice to the posters on here who probably use it. (I believe being nice is one of the starting points for this forum).

As this thread has had 42 replies and 1,615 views, I am betting there are alot of new mothers or M2B lurking.

To say something that might make them feel in any way awful about what they do with their baby isn't very nice. My baby is 8 months now and it is only now I am starting to feel like my old self and I mean old self like pre pregnancy, pre TTC, a normal adult who can look at things logically.

Lucky you. My DD is almost 28 months and a dream child but I still don't feel like my old self yet!

LegalBlonde wrote: »

Let me tell you my baby is bright, alert, happy, outgoing and sociable and she has been in a jumperoo (this apparent instrument of neglect) from 6 months. Of course I limit her time in there but from my point of view it has been an absolute and utter godsend. In fact it changed my life. The first afternoon she was in there to try it out was the longest I had ever gone not holding her when she was awake. I have spent days walking round with her before this to stop her crying. Literally, days. I would eat a quick breakfast when she was asleep in the morning (creeping round not to wake her) and lunch made by my OH while holding her. I would make dinner when my OH came home and took over. She would not lie in her crib, in her pram or on a playmat without screaming. Neglect would be letting her have exhausted parents who literally could not go on.

That's great. Not everybody does.

My double-degree educated sister in law, for example, who put her 4 month old baby in it for about half an hour at a time, 3-4 times a day so that she "could get things done". And of course baby loved it - it's designed so that they do. So by the time she was 6 months she was in it for 45 minutes at a time 5-6 times a day.

That caused issues with her hips and her feet, because she shouldn't have been in that position for so much time every day.

LegalBlonde wrote: »

Yes I thought I would be one of these mothers who BF for ages (I stopped at 6 months), sling wearing, puree blending, child attachment earth mothers but unfortunately I am too poor time and money wise for any of this.

She absolutely loves her Jumperoo and loves to jump in it and see the music and lights. Why would I take this away from her? She is crawling and pulling herself up when not in the jumperoo just fine.

All I wanted to say was we all have our opinions, I am not arguing with you to be pro Jumperoo and I am at the stage with all this baby market stuff now that I don't actually care if someone thinks that about me but to describe something as neglect when it might be just the thing keeping a poor new mother sane isn't very nice. So to anyone reading unsure about Jumperoo I just wanted to give my side.

As if this is neglect. Would you like it if I described your godsend playmat as a rectangle of neglect? Or anything else that anyone uses, we are all here with one thing in common - babies - and we all know how hard and confusing it is.

By the way, take it from someone who knows, hip dysplasia is congenital :question::question::question::think:

For the avoidance of doubt, DD had a jumperoo! She didn't go in it until she was 6 months old, and had to have a cushion under her because she wasn't quite tall enough. She was never in it for more than 15 minutes at a time twice a day. She loved it, and I'm sure it was that exercise that strengthened her legs and had her walking at 9 months. :eek: She still loves bouncing now and she has had a toddler trampoline since she turned 1.

So I'm not judging anybody for having one, apart from when it's clear they are being misused - as in my SIL's case.

I recently had to point out that continuing to feed a totally healthy 15 month old child stage 1 pouches of baby food because "it's less messy" might not be the best for the child. This is my supposedly intelligent SIL again.

Gillyx

Anything can be mis used though, so why weren't the antenatal group calling it the cot of neglect (I put my son in there daily, while I shower) to me it comes across as superior and quite nasty, whether it's intended as a joke or not.

We are all mothers trying to do our best, in whatever circumstances are thrown at us. Giving a toy that name whether in jest or not could seriously upset someone who is mentally and physically struggling and is getting 5 minutes to themselves to actually go to the toilet or get a drink by using such a toy.

I can think of much worse things a new parent could be doing.

notanewuser

Gillyx wrote: »

Anything can be mis used though, so why weren't the antenatal group calling it the cot of neglect (I put my son in there daily, while I shower) to me it comes across as superior and quite nasty, whether it's intended as a joke or not.

We are all mothers trying to do our best, in whatever circumstances are thrown at us. Giving a toy that name whether in jest or not could seriously upset someone who is mentally and physically struggling and is getting 5 minutes to themselves to actually go to the toilet or get a drink by using such a toy.

I can think of much worse things a new parent could be doing.

Erm, because it's a term used all over the planet, not just in one antenatal group.

Gillyx

notanewuser wrote: »

Erm, because it's a term used all over the planet, not just in one antenatal group.

Never in my life have I heard it before. I must be socialising with the neglectful parents.

WATTY1978

Ok heres my top five....
Swaddles
Baby monitor with breathing pad
slumber bear
lasinol nipple cream
bepanthen

good luck x

LegalBlonde

I will stop hijacking the thread now....but just wanted to say I have never ever heard that term or any link to hip dysplasia (which as I said, is congenital. I had a quick look in relation to this and there does seem to be some schools of thought on acquired forms, but in all the 100s I came across (context clue is in the name...) this was never ever something we had to consider or rule out first, it was always congenital)

I suppose my point was it was a bit blaze to call it this when new mothers reading the thread may not be familiar with the background to the term.

Anything can be a tool/enabler of neglect if the point is people leaving the babies in there too long.

I was starting to come up with this theory that it was law educated people :rotfl::rotfl: as I use jumperoo pretty much as the lady you described, and I am sticking with stage 1 pouches rather than going on to stage 2....but then I realised she was your double educated sister in law as in SIL, not educated IN LAW :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: baby brain lives on.

As an apology for hijacking the thread, I've tried to have a think. All I can really say is TAKE help when it is offered, be confident with whichever way you decide to feed and do not worry about combined feeding or switching to the other if you need to, and oh yeah, a jumperoo :rotfl: and enjoy these precious moments. I never knew what people meant but they really do grow up so fast

LegalBlonde

Gillyx wrote: »

Anything can be mis used though, so why weren't the antenatal group calling it the cot of neglect (I put my son in there daily, while I shower) to me it comes across as superior and quite nasty, whether it's intended as a joke or not.

We are all mothers trying to do our best, in whatever circumstances are thrown at us. Giving a toy that name whether in jest or not could seriously upset someone who is mentally and physically struggling and is getting 5 minutes to themselves to actually go to the toilet or get a drink by using such a toy.

I can think of much worse things a new parent could be doing.

Now see why can't I be that articulate instead of a garbled essay :rotfl: