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schools opening when it has snowed!
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I have no desire to argue with you but I do have to ask the question. If the county council or the head of the school decide not to open the school (in the case of my OH's school the county council made a decision to do blanket closures, because the coach companies were not operating/they did not want kids stranded at school later in the day as the weather got worse). How can you then hold teachers responsible for decisions which are completely out of their control?
Or is there another reason why you seem so keen to lay the blame for this with teachers?
Its a legitimate question greg, and I will answer it. If the decision is made because those in charge have no faith in enough teachers showing up (which is the ratio argument) then the cause is still the teachers not being reliable enough to show up. It says a lot when their leaders are essentially predicting not enough of them to come in.0 -
Thats the bloody point, what can you not see here. The school, the school, the school. Thats the problem NOT the excuse.
If all these teachers werent lame @rses, then their children would be able to go to school, and they would be able to teach themselves, therefore the ratios will be fine and schools can stay open. And why does this not happen.
Because they can be trusted to show up, which is the starting point of this ripple effect and the precise critisism that I am making. It all starts with the no show of the teacher, everything cascades from that.
Well the parents at OH's school were all informed last night that the school was open today (it was closed Friday and the only school in the area to open today).
Less than 50% of the kids turned up. All the teachers turned up. I watched loads of the kids during the day walking up to the hills with their sledges!
The teachers turned up, the kids did not.0 -
thats funny, 4 pages ago it was a legal requirement
Infant Class size limits is a legal requirement - do your research. There are a few, rare, exceptions. You can read up on this by looking at the The School Admissions (Infant Class Sizes) (England) Regulations 2012.
Maybe you should rely on something other than google.
Anyway, I'm going to follow wise's advice and stop feeding the person under the bridge.Save £200 a month : [STRIKE]Oct[/STRIKE] Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr0 -
Its a legitimate question greg, and I will answer it. If the decision is made because those in charge have no faith in enough teachers showing up (which is the ratio argument) then the cause is still the teachers not being reliable enough to show up. It says a lot when their leaders are essentially predicting not enough of them to come in.
You are entitled to your opinion but I do disagree with you.
The teaching staff I know are far more conscientious than you are giving them credit for.
Also, as I said previously, the majority of the kids at the school are brought in by coach as we are pretty rural. It is because the coach companies refuse to operate that the decision is usually based on to close. Really, it is nothing to do with the teaching staff who are more than willing to make the effort if the school is open as they did today.0 -
thegirlintheattic wrote: »Infant Class size limits is a legal requirement - do your research. There are a few, rare, exceptions. You can read up on this by looking at the The School Admissions (Infant Class Sizes) (England) Regulations 2012.
Maybe you should rely on something other than google.
Maybe you should use your eyes, I said above KS1.
There are no class size limits for children above the age of 7 nor are there any adult supervision ratios set out in law. And while we are on the subject, google was my search engine however my source of information was the DofEd and the NUT, I'd suggest that they know what they are on about. More than some on here it seems who either dont, or have been telling bare faced lies.
The reality of the situation here is that it is perfectly legal for most schools to run with a slightly less than perfect ratio. It isnt set in tablets of stone and they are perfectly able to stay open. They dont need to know in advance EXACTLY how many children will be there and how many staff. It is the easy option to just shut them0 -
was 100% of the company not operational. Not 100% of 1 operation, was the entire company down?
The company is a worldwide blue chip bank. They have back ups for situations exactly like this! Do you even understand how banking works? The point is - they cancelled all of the work that had been scheduled over the weekend - including the stuff that they had flown engineers in for. It costs thousands and has a massive business impact.
If you are seriously suggesting that it doesn't have an impact, then you are woefully naive.
And your immature insistence on referring to "20%" of whatever is just showing you up as relatively ignorant in the ways that certain businesses operate.
You only have to do a quick read up to see how the weather has affected transport up and down the country. If you don't think that this impacts any more than 1/5 of a given business' operation on a given day, then sorry, but you've got your head in a bubble."One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."0 -
You are entitled to your opinion but I do disagree with you.
The teaching staff I know are far more conscientious than you are giving them credit for.
Also, as I said previously, the majority of the kids at the school are brought in by coach as we are pretty rural. It is because the coach companies refuse to operate that the decision is usually based on to close. Really, it is nothing to do with the teaching staff who are more than willing to make the effort if the school is open as they did today.
and you are entitled to dissagree or challenge my points. My argument is that while there will be many valid examples of schools closing like yours above, the sheer scale and number that do is taking the mick.0 -
This poster (Johnny) has a real bee in his bonnet about it being the teachers and has, as far as I recall, completely ignored the assertion that the head is the decision maker, preferring to suggest it's all down to teachers who CBA to turn in.
Mind you, he also asserts I am 'thick'.
So I know exactly how much credence to accord to his posts.Don't put it DOWN; put it AWAY"I would like more sisters, that the taking out of one, might not leave such stillness" Emily Dickinson
Janice 1964-2016
Thank you Honey Bear0 -
This poster (Johnny) has a real bee in his bonnet about it being the teachers and has, as far as I recall, completely ignored the assertion that the head is the decision maker, perferring to suggest it's all down to teachers who CBA to turn in.
Mind you, he also asserts I am 'thick'.
So I know exactly how much credence to accord to his posts.
You recall incorrectly, I have addressed that point.
If the decision maker makes the decision to shut because there will not be enough stafff, then this decision is BECAUSE he / she expects the staff not to show up. ie) the staff CAUSE it, because if they couldnt be trusted to come in then the decision maker would have to make that decision.0
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