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schools opening when it has snowed!
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why is the effect of the snow only working one way with the ratios? If the weather is THAT bad that a significant proportion of teachers can not get to school then it follows that a proportion of pupils can not either.
It that it? Is that your 'factor' that everyone is missing :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
You had us all going for a while there Johnny, time to pull the other one.Accept your past without regret, handle your present with confidence and face your future without fear0 -
why is the effect of the snow only working one way with the ratios? If the weather is THAT bad that a significant proportion of teachers can not get to school then it follows that a proportion of pupils can not either.
Yes of course, and a number of people on this thread have posted comments about vastly reduced pupil numbers at schools that have stayed open.
But what YOU are missing is that that is an unknown quantity. Heads can't wait until 9am to see how many kids turn up and hope that not many will make it and the ratios will be ok. They have to make a decision before that and they have to make a decision based on the assumption that all pupils will be there - even if it is obvious that that won't be the case, they can't risk guessing games. Sending everyone home at 9am is far more disruptive to parents and families than shutting the school in plenty of time.
You are also missing the fact that many pupils do still live within walking distance of schools whereas many adult workers (including teachers...) do not live within walking distance of their place of work.0 -
balletshoes wrote: »but no-one at school knows how many children will be able to get in, they don't know if the child comes straight from home in the morning, or is taken to another place (family, childminder etc) first, they don't know how the child is transported to school etc etc, so without contacting every parent before 7.30am every morning in bad weather to ascertain this, no decision can be made regarding the ratio? So the school goes on what it can ascertain - how many of its staff will be able to make it into school on time.
im pretty sure that if the weather is THAT bad, (remember, we are justifying it not being possible to come in) then we know that many children also wont be coming in.0 -
peachyprice wrote: »It that it? Is that your 'factor' that everyone is missing :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
You had us all going for a while there Johnny, time to pull the other one.
so why can "ALL" the kids get in but not "ALL" the teachers. If all the kids dont get in then how is there a ratio problem?0 -
why is the effect of the snow only working one way with the ratios? If the weather is THAT bad that a significant proportion of teachers can not get to school then it follows that a proportion of pupils can not either.
Flaw in that is that most children live near the school (unless it is very rural), whereas most staff live outside the catchment area. This is particularly true in primary schools. For example, all the kids from the village primary school are from the village but none of the staff are, hence the school being closed (well combined with the fact police were warning people not to travel on the only road to the village as it was pretty dicey).
The school I work at would only loose about a 1/3 of kids in bad weather. So that is still 600 kids in school.
In any case, at 7:30 am heads don't know how many kids will be in. Better to close than have 600+ kids unsupervised and having to be sent home. It also doesn't take much to affect the ratios - in a small primary school just 1 or 2 staff not being able to get in could result in illegal staffing levels.Save £200 a month : [STRIKE]Oct[/STRIKE] Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr0 -
im pretty sure that if the weather is THAT bad, (remember, we are justifying it not being possible to come in) then we know that many children also wont be coming in.
No, they don't KNOW that. There is no way to KNOW that without contacting every family first thing in the morning, as others have said. Of course they can ASSUME that many children won't be coming in, but a head teacher cannot make decisions that will potentially affect the safety of children based on ASSUMPTIONS.0 -
im pretty sure that if the weather is THAT bad, (remember, we are justifying it not being possible to come in) then we know that many children also wont be coming in.
how do we know that? Again (I'm getting bored now) as has been said already, generally a lot of children going to a particular school will be in the school's catchment, so could probably walk to school if its open. Many teachers generally don't live in the catchment of the school they teach in, so they may not be able to safely get to their school in time for the start of the school day.
And, as I now feel dizzy from this thread going round in circles, I believe I'll bow out
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not understand the word proportion then?
Care to answer this little puzzle.
And you, I assume, totally ignored the little rolling-on-the-floor laughing smiley that indicated a less-than-serious answer.
Because I fail to see why I should answer you intelligently when you have such a dim view of my own intelligence.
Never mind, sweetie. You will be back in school tomorrow;) - learning, not teaching;)Don't put it DOWN; put it AWAY"I would like more sisters, that the taking out of one, might not leave such stillness" Emily Dickinson
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Thank you Honey Bear0 -
im pretty sure that if the weather is THAT bad, (remember, we are justifying it not being possible to come in) then we know that many children also wont be coming in.
Strange though it may seem, teachers don't actually live in the same catchment area as the pupils, not even the same town or county, can you believe that.Accept your past without regret, handle your present with confidence and face your future without fear0 -
From our experience today parents are less committed than teachers. Our daughter's school was open, we knew from 6.30am it was, the Head was there from 7.30am and she walked 2 miles. There was at least one teacher for every year group. Total pupil turnout was 26, less than 10% of the school.
The pupils who didn't turn in include those from 6 families who live so close to school they can almost hear the bell.
Me and my daughter had a 1.5 mile walk, but we did it, enjoyed it and she had a great day with three of her classmates.0
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