schools opening when it has snowed!

Valli

johnnyl wrote: »

There are apparently 5000 schools shut today.

Are there 5000 doctors shut, or 5000 offices shut, or 5000 chemical plants shut, or 5000 post offices shut, or 5000 shops shut, or 5000 pubs shut.

No you didn''t claim - you asked if there were 5000 chemical plants etc shut. Well there aren't 5000 chemical plants.

Keep up the abuse; ignore what you've been told about who decides to shut the schools. For the umpteenth time; the HEAD decides to close the school. Not the staff.

What should teachers do? Sit in the school car park all day, outside a building they cannot get into because it's locked shut?

Valli

johnnyl wrote: »

are you thick?

I have never claimed that there were 5000 of anything. I used the 5000 to relate it to the number of schools, I also threw in 5000 shops and 5000 hairdressers. The point (to anyone with a brain larger than a grape) was that there is not a mass "no show" on the same magnitude as that of schools. The minute I knew what % of schools 5000 equated to, I chan ged my point (and it was literally a minute after)

So lets stop going on about the 5000, because if we all throw our cards on the table here the only reason you are doing it is because the 20% point is valid and you can not challenge it. therefore you revert to a nonsense argument splitting hairs over a number that was never proclaimed to be accurate.

Simple question - Why are 20% of schools shut but not 20% of anything else.

And no, I'm not thick. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Simple answer - 20% of schools are closed because their heads decided to close them.

No clue about the number of other businesses open or shut.

So I can accurately answer half your question.

johnnyl

make_me_wise wrote: »

:rotfl:

Maths is so clearly not a strength of johnnyl. Poor sod. Logic is also clearly a weakness. You have to feel sorry for someone so challenged.

I wonder how long it would take him to jog on by if we all started to just ignore him

it makes no odds, it will be of a similar magnitude because it will average out with some big schools affected and some smaller schools. At the end of the day, 20% of schools are shut because they can not trust the so called proffessionals to show up to work in conditions that people up and down the country manage in.

peachyprice

johnnyl wrote: »

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Simple question - Why are 20% of schools shut but not 20% of anything else.

For the love of god.

johnnyl

Valli wrote: »

No you didn''t claim - you asked if there were 5000 chemical plants etc shut. Well there aren't 5000 chemical plants.

Keep up the abuse; ignore what you've been told about who decides to shut the schools. For the umpteenth time; the HEAD decides to close the school. Not the staff.
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And WHY? - Because of the ratios

and what causes that? - Not showing up.

Its not rocket science.

Valli

johnnyl wrote: »

And WHY? - Because of the ratios

and what causes that? - Not showing up.

Its not rocket science.

What do you mean - 'not showing up'?

They are TOLD not to come in.

I don't think I'm the thicko here.;) Just imagine - all those kiddies turning up at school this morning to be told they can't go into school because none of the teachers have turned in; all those angry parents waiting to get off to work who have to take their kids back home because the teachers are all having a lie in.

Because that's EXACTLY how it panned out :rotfl:

peachyprice

johnnyl wrote: »

At the end of the day, 20% of schools are shut because they can not trust the so called proffessionals to show up to work in conditions that people up and down the country manage in.

People up and down the country AREN'T getting into work, but their places of work can operate without them.

I asked before but you didn't answer, do you really believe that in every other place of work 100% of people have made it in to work? No-one, other than teachers have been unable to get to into work today? Are you that thick to believe that?

balletshoes

johnnyl wrote: »

it makes no odds, it will be of a similar magnitude because it will average out with some big schools affected and some smaller schools. At the end of the day,
20% of schools are shut because they can not trust the so called proffessionals to show up to work in conditions that people up and down the country manage in.

okay, I'll try this time .

20% of other businesses/services etc don't have to shut if 20% of their workforce can't get to work. This is because if 20% don't turn up, all that happens generally is that the work that would normally have been done by the absentees is taken by other staff who have turned up, or its left, to be done when the absentees are back at work safely.

As has been pointed out several times already in this thread - there is a ratio of kids to adults in schools, and if 20% of adult staff in school can't safely get to school in time for the start of the school day, the ratio can't be met, so the school can't open.

In my office today, 8 out of 18 staff weren't there. Way more than 20% absence, but as long as theres one person to answer the phone, we're open. But we're not a school, with a child/teacher ratio.

johnnyl

peachyprice wrote: »

People up and down the country AREN'T getting into work, but their places of work can operate without them.

I asked before but you didn't answer, do you really believe that in every other place of work 100% of people have made it in to work? No-one, other than teachers have been unable to get to into work today? Are you that thick to believe that?

nope, Im not that thick to believe that. Which is why I have never claimed it. If you want to falsely put claims like "all" and "every" into my points on my behalf then carry on. I wont reply to them though.

johnnyl

balletshoes wrote: »

okay, I'll try this time .

20% of other businesses/services etc don't have to shut if 20% of their workforce can't get to work. This is because if 20% don't turn up, all that happens generally is that the work that would normally have been done by the absentees is taken by other staff who have turned up, or its left, to be done when the absentees are back at work safely.

As has been pointed out several times already in this thread - there is a ratio of kids to adults in schools, and if 20% of adult staff in school can't safely get to school in time for the start of the school day, the ration can't be met, so the school can't open.

In my office today, 8 out of 18 staff weren't there. Way more than 20% absence, but as long as theres one person to answer the phone, we're open. But we're not a school, with a child/teacher ratio.

Im well aware of the above, however there is one thing that you are missing in spectacular fashion.