schools opening when it has snowed!

silvercar

peachyprice wrote: »

Ok smarty pants, how many other businesses have a legal requirement of staff to customer ratio or manager to worker ratio in the same way that a school has a staff to pupil ratio?

Which is the start of the problem:

Headteacher: Can we rely on you getting in to school tomorrow.
Teacher: Afraid I can't say until I know if my children's school(s) are open; I have no alternative childcare as I chose a job that fitted in with having young children.
Headteacher: I'll have to count you as a "no" for the moment.

Calculator out, not enough teachers to maintain correct staff:pupil ratio, so school closes.

Ripple effect and most schools in the area close.

Valli

johnnyl wrote: »

Johnnyl has managed a chemical plant, unlike you. The 20% didnt appear from nowhere, it was an addition to the post that was made about half a minute later to put it into context.

The bare bones facts here are is this 5000 figure keeps getting referred to because you have no excuse as to why 20% of schools are shut but not 20% of anything else. You have to attack the 5000 number because you know you can not construct any kind of valid argument against the sheer level of "no show" from the teaching community.

20% of schools shut is an utter disgrace, it is nothing more than a reflex knee jerk reaction from a proffesion that has no intention of trying to stay open. The easy option is taken.

How do you know what work I have done?

Pure guesswork; again.

If you had been in the chemical industry then you would have known (a) it's been on its knees for a while now and (b) there are nowhere near 5000 chemical plants.

The teachers don't make the decision to close. The managers do. That, in the case of schools, would be the heads. And they are damned if they do decide to close - and damned if they don't.

Schools are always looking for community Governors you know. If you were to be elected you might start to understand some of the operational difficulties they face.

marisco_2

:beer:

Thanks johnnyl you have made my most challenging pupils suddenly seem so mature and focused, and they are just seven.

I have important work to do now such as marking childrens work and further lesson planning. If you really need your questions above answered for the umpteenth time, then might I suggest you re-read the whole of this thread.

Its not that I cant answer you, I just have absolutely no inclination to repeat what has already been explained to you in depth.

daisiegg

johnnyl wrote: »

Which brings me to the question that I have asked. If dangerous roads are the problem then why are 20% of shops not shut, 20% of hairdressers not shut etc etc etc. ITS THE SAME ARGUMENT. You simply can not answer it, all you can ever come back with is that some people cant make it. Im not interested in odd examples, show me anyone else that has 20% of their proffession m

Because, as you continue to fail to address, other places of work can open with FEWER THAN USUAL STAFF and they can open if LOTS OF THEIR STAFF ARE LATE.

Schools cannot.

I don't know how to make it any more simple for you to understand!

As many people have commented, other places of work ARE closed or are operating with fewer than usual staff, or suffering from staff being very late to work. Any one of us on this thread can name lots of examples. This means that other people than teachers are also struggling to get to work. But schools have to close more frequently than other places as when some of their staff struggle to get to work, like many other people in the country, they don't have enough adults to look after the children.

thegirlintheattic

johnnyl wrote: »

Ive pointed it out to you now. Care to explain why 20% of the teaching proffesion is off and if any other proffesion has this level of no show.

Teachers wonder why this attitude prevails, it is because they have earned it. It really is that straightforward.

20% of the teaching profession is not off - 20% of schools are closed. There is a difference.

daisiegg

johnnyl wrote: »

Ive explained why the ratio isnt the problem. I suggest that you read that post first.

But your explanation was nonsense.

CH27

johnnyl do you have any children?
You have a very poor opinion of teachers, social workers & health visitors.

peachyprice

johnnyl wrote: »

Ive explained why the ratio isnt the problem. I suggest that you read that post first.

No, you haven't explained anything, all you've shown is your own lack of understanding, time and time again.

Valli

thegirlintheattic wrote: »

20% of the teaching profession is not off - 20% of schools are closed. There is a difference.

And I would assume that many of the teachers who were told not to go in to work have spent at least part of the day on paperwork:p

make_me_wise

thegirlintheattic wrote: »

20% of the teaching profession is not off - 20% of schools are closed. There is a difference.

:rotfl:

Maths is so clearly not a strength of johnnyl. Poor sod. Logic is also clearly a weakness. You have to feel sorry for someone so challenged.

I wonder how long it would take him to jog on by if we all started to just ignore him