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Possibly Getting Dismissed through Sham Redundancy.

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  • keithrgj
    keithrgj Posts: 162 Forumite
    AP007 wrote: »
    Well lucky you but not everyone gets a pay out. I got 4 weeks statory for 5 years work (all but 3 weeks)

    Do not judge all redundancies with what you have heard say 20 years ago.

    i was made redundant 6 weeks ago
  • keithrgj
    keithrgj Posts: 162 Forumite
    The EAT confirmed that, in order to be fair, the redundancy process must involve a fair consultation which gives employees who are ‘at risk’ a meaningful chance to challenge their scores and be given explanations for them. It is therefore clear that where an employee has not been given all of the above information and as a result has not had the opportunity to effectively challenge their scores if they wish to do so, the employer will be at risk of unfairly dismissing the employee.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    keithrgj wrote: »
    i was made redundant 6 weeks ago
    So you had a consultation? You voluntered?
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  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    keithrgj wrote: »
    The EAT confirmed that, in order to be fair, the redundancy process must involve a fair consultation which gives employees who are ‘at risk’ a meaningful chance to challenge their scores and be given explanations for them. It is therefore clear that where an employee has not been given all of the above information and as a result has not had the opportunity to effectively challenge their scores if they wish to do so, the employer will be at risk of unfairly dismissing the employee.
    you do not have to have a consultaion for less than 20 staff
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  • keithrgj
    keithrgj Posts: 162 Forumite
    AP007 wrote: »
    you do not have to have a consultaion for less than 20 staff

    what has the quote above got to do with consultation, the quote is in regards to a scoring system
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    keithrgj wrote: »
    what has the quote above got to do with consultation, the quote is in regards to a scoring system
    they dont have to tell you those either
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  • keithrgj
    keithrgj Posts: 162 Forumite
    AP007 wrote: »
    they dont have to tell you those either

    Where employees query their scores under a scoring matrix, they are entitled to be told the reason why they received the marks they did. Therefore employers need to be careful that the criteria and scoring used are capable of being justified.
  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    keithrgj wrote: »
    The EAT confirmed that, in order to be fair, the redundancy process must involve a fair consultation which gives employees who are ‘at risk’ a meaningful chance to challenge their scores and be given explanations for them. It is therefore clear that where an employee has not been given all of the above information and as a result has not had the opportunity to effectively challenge their scores if they wish to do so, the employer will be at risk of unfairly dismissing the employee.

    Please quote your source.
    Trying to be a man is a waste of a woman
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    keithrgj wrote: »
    Where employees query their scores under a scoring matrix, they are entitled to be told the reason why they received the marks they did. Therefore employers need to be careful that the criteria and scoring used are capable of being justified.
    But what if the employer wont and dont tell them?

    Not every company will, they will just say 'you scored the lowest'.
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  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    keithrgj wrote: »
    Where employees query their scores under a scoring matrix, they are entitled to be told the reason why they received the marks they did. Therefore employers need to be careful that the criteria and scoring used are capable of being justified.

    Only in as much as they've treated everybody fairly within the criteria. They don't have to justify their criteria (provided they aren't protected characteristics under discrimination laws).
    Trying to be a man is a waste of a woman
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