MSE News: MPs vote to limit benefit rises to 1%

plum2002

ILW wrote: »

They were costing a fortune when nationalised. The waste was massive and I believe the prices (compared to wages) were higher than now.

Funny how so many were desperate to invest in them, and how much money they generate now, streamlining would have happened if they had remained in state control and the country would be in a better position. Not a perfect position as the other reason we are in a mess is down to the banking sector not as 'some' believe down to the welfare state!

GMbabies

What a bunch of !!!!!!!
While they debate about 1% benefit increase, politicians are demanding 32% salary increase. I tought they've just had their 25% expense increase and all. Basically, MPs get paid £65,738 currently but Tory wants £97,000.

There were 75,000 children who were homeless this Christmas. 1 in 4 mothers have to choose to either heat or feed their children.

....and not many people seems to give a toss about how much raise MP gets? I think the world has gone MAD.

ILW

GMbabies wrote: »

What a bunch of !!!!!!!
While they debate about 1% benefit increase, politicians are demanding 32% salary increase. I tought they've just had their 25% expense increase and all. Basically, MPs get paid £65,738 currently but Tory wants £97,000.

There were 75,000 children who were homeless this Christmas. 1 in 4 mothers have to choose to either heat or feed their children.

....and not many people seems to give a toss about how much raise MP gets? I think the world has gone MAD.

Absolute cobblers.

indieemu

I think what relly annoys me about this whole issue is that people have fallen for the Tory rhetoric hook, line and sinker.

Too many people classify benefits as only going to those who are claiming out of work benefits.

This group of people account for 3% of the total benefits budget.

7 million working households will be affected by this bill.

The use of percentage figures instead of monetary values makes it very easy to simplify things. The fact is that someone earning the average wage of 26,500 would receive an extra £5.10 a week with a 1% payrise

Someone on JSA would receive an extra 71p a week.
71p a week is nowhere near enough to cover the rises in utility bills, food etc.

For those who feel that folk on benefits should not have any extra income or any luxuries, yes benefits are there to help you live above the poverty line and are not there to fund extravagant lifestyles. Items like Pphones can be bought on contracts for very little. All TVs are now flatscreen so why should they not be allowed to own one.

You are asking that people on the basic minimum should have absolutely no quality of life at all. Welcome to the 1800's.

Also, there has been very little talk the tax cut for the wealthy. How can denying someone a £2.13 raise in JSA possibly be helping eradicate the deficit when those earning £100000's get off with paying £1000's less in tax?

This government, on Monday promised to help families with children. How is this bill doing that?

And all in the same week where politicians believe they should be earning 32% more than they already, more than 3 x the average minmum wage.

I really wish that people would wake up and realise what this this government is doing to this country. I would dearly love to see some action taken, but I fear the Tories and the DM and Sun readers have taken a firm hold...

MissMoneypenny

Dyonisia_Sky wrote: »

Everyone of us needs to realise that this is a typical government ploy, assisted by the Media, to pit those in benefits against those in work - not forgetting those workers on low incomes who therefore receive some financial assistance - I am one of those - and public sector workers against private sector workers and vice versa and so on and so on ad nauseum. The government does this to deflect attention from badly thought out or unfair policies which usually hit the poor ie those on low incomes, whether working or not. It's a lovely little merri-go-round that usually benefits those who wield real power. whoever they may be. So stop thinking that you are all on different sides.

And here was I thinking it was all about making people work enough hours to support their lifestyle.

plum2002

ILW wrote: »

Absolute cobblers.

The idiots are running the asylum, god help us all.

Deep_In_Debt

wouldbeqaulitymoneysaver wrote: »

Yeah at Phil Bentley's bonus. How many old people will die because they cannot afford to heat their homes, how many people won't eat and choose to heat their homes instead of both. Needless to say he will be a neoliberal rightwinger....

Don't old people get a winter fuel allowance?

Many working people can't afford to heat their homes either.

MissMoneypenny

indieemu wrote: »

Too many people classify benefits as only going to those who are claiming out of work benefits.

Only those who deluded themselves that their tax credits and "little bit of housing help" etc, weren't really benefits, as they were working.

Tax credits are the third most expensive welfare payment!

indieemu

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

And here was I thinking it was all about making people work enough hours to support their lifestyle.

I'm a single parent, I work and I receive benefits. What should I do with my 2 year old while I'm working all the hours under the sun?

If I didn't get CTC I couldn't afford to go to work as my childcare costs nearly the same as my monthly wage.

MissMoneypenny

indieemu wrote: »

I'm a single parent, I work and I receive benefits. What should I do with my 2 year old while I'm working all the hours under the sun?

If I didn't get CTC I couldn't afford to go to work as my childcare costs nearly the same as my monthly wage.

You are still on benefits. You aren't "classified" as not being on benefits.

Some parents do the minimum work to maximise their welfare payments, but strangely, they still don't think they are on benefits; despite claiming more cash benefits than those on jsa without children

For the record, before tax credits came in, the single parents managed to work and pay for their own childcare, without welfare payments. I do appreciate that the last government pushed up childcare charges and housing costs and that these need to be reduced asap.