MSE News: MPs vote to limit benefit rises to 1%

ILW

indieemu wrote: »

I'm a single parent, I work and I receive benefits. What should I do with my 2 year old while I'm working all the hours under the sun?

If I didn't get CTC I couldn't afford to go to work as my childcare costs nearly the same as my monthly wage.

Is there a good reason why the childs other parent is not supporting them?

shedboy94

KxMx wrote: »

The genuine sick on ESA (work Group), Income Support (awaiting ESA transfer) and Incapacity Benefit (as before) are in for the 1% cap.

And DLA, one of the benefits protected from the cap, is being changed to PIP with an openly admitted Government target of kicking off 20% of claimants.

So those genuine sick aren't being protected.

You are very, very naive if you think it's a case of the genuine being protected and the malingers being punished. Dear me.

Do you honestly believe that everyone who receives DLA is a genuine claimant, and do you believe that everyone should should get additional money regardless of whether they incur additional costs or not directly relating to their disability?

ILW

dori2o wrote: »

You think it's just housing and childcare costs that have risen forcing the need for tax credits?

When we moved into this house in 2002 or monthly gas and electric bill was about £65, it's now £130, A 100% INCREASE.

In 2002 council tax on this house was £700, it's now £1150.

In 2002 we paid £9 a month for water (unmetered), now it's £21 a month.

Just 3 years ago I used to be able to do a weekly shop for £35, it's now closer to £55 a week and the things we buy have not changed in that time.

In 1998 when I passed my driving test, petrol was 48p/litre, currently our local petrol station is charging £1.34, a 279% increase in 15 years, on average 18% a year, way above inflation, wage increases and increases in benefits.

It isn't just housing and childcare costs that are the problem, big businesses have got greedy forcing prices up for everyone.

It was possible in the 80's and earlier to live on the average salary, even below the average salary without the sums given to people that we see today, but that is because everything cost so much less then compared with today. Just like comparing footballers of the 60's/70's/80's with the modern day player, it's an impossible task as things have moved on so much over that time.

There's only 1 way to reduce the need for tax credits amongst those who are working, that is to increase the NMW to a level where tax credits wouldn't be paid.

That however wouldn't suit the capitalists, they would revolt at the thought of the lowest rungs of the ladder being paid a living salary. Afterall, it would seriously affect their dividend payments, and we can't have that now can we.

Or the other option is to stop all working benefits. Businesses will have to pay more to attract any staff and workers will have to learn to live within their means.
I do believe that the idea of getting virtually everyone one benefits was a Nulabour/Gordon Brown idea which was actually confirmed by Ed Balls on the TV last weekend.

plum2002

ILW wrote: »

Is there a good reason why the childs other parent is not supporting them?

Maintenance is not counted anyway, so they'd still get all they do plus maintenance

ILW

plum2002 wrote: »

Maintenance is not counted anyway, so they'd still get all they do plus maintenance

So the benefits are a nice little earner then for doing nothing? No wonder we are suffering.

plum2002

ILW wrote: »

So the benefits are a nice little earner then for doing nothing? No wonder we are suffering.

Because obviously the country's financial crisis has nothing to do with banking, sub-prime mortgages et al merely the welfare budget, best get pensioners bumped off then, they are the biggest percentage of the budget. :eek:

ILW

plum2002 wrote: »

Because obviously the country's financial crisis has nothing to do with banking, sub-prime mortgages et al merely the welfare budget, best get pensioners bumped off then, they are the biggest percentage of the budget. :eek:

Banking crisis stopped the flow of credit, an overbloated welfare state created the need for ever increasing credit.
Pensioners have no choice about getting old, most single mothers chose to have children they are incapable of supporting.

plum2002

ILW wrote: »

Or the other option is to stop all working benefits. Businesses will have to pay more to attract any staff and workers will have to learn to live within their means.
I do believe that the idea of getting virtually everyone one benefits was a Nulabour/Gordon Brown idea which was actually confirmed by Ed Balls on the TV last weekend.

Then all businesses will either move overseas or go into administration. The main reason people cannot manage is the cost of housing, when you have the situation that the cheapest 3 bed house to rent is £1000pcm and the average income in the area is £14,000p.a you start to see why people are struggling.

plum2002

ILW wrote: »

Banking crisis stopped the flow of credit, an overbloated welfare state created the need for ever increasing credit.
Pensioners have no choice about getting old, most single mothers chose to have children they are incapable of supporting.

no, the 'need' to own your own home created the need for ever increasing credit.

ILW

plum2002 wrote: »

Then all businesses will either move overseas or go into administration. The main reason people cannot manage is the cost of housing, when you have the situation that the cheapest 3 bed house to rent is £1000pcm and the average income in the area is £14,000p.a you start to see why people are struggling.

Many min wage jobs are in care, retail etc so cannot go overseas. Rents would follow follow wages if left to the market.