MSE News: MPs vote to limit benefit rises to 1%

bloomingflower

guilds wrote: »

Tesco profits of £3.8bn in 2011thats vast and employees are on tax credits. As for cuts read my post fully NO! not until wages are paid fairly. ILW With profits like that is it fair?

That's a mahoosive amount and Tesco should be downright shameful enforcing their employees to claim tax credits as a 'top up' just so they can survive.:embarasse_pale_:(

Gentile

guilds wrote: »

Tesco profits of £3.8bn in 2011thats vast and employees are on tax credits. As for cuts read my post fully NO! not until wages are paid fairly. ILW With profits like that is it fair?

Are you for real ? Tesco making billions in profits does not mean it does not pay fair wages. They have various kinds of staff. Buyers, IT, Management, customer service. They are paid fairly and market rates. They pay check out staff and other unskilled workers the market rate too, which is minimum wage. What is wrong ? If the government ( Labour ) decided for some reason to hand out tax credits and what not why is it Tesco problem ? APPLE make billions in profit, are you suggesting they dont pay fair wages ?

Mind boggles. But that is what the Labour government has done in the past decade, brain wash an entire generation.

shedboy94

DeeDee74 wrote: »

Like who??? Joke people believe people like you even if you had 4 kids you'd have 2 be getting like 300 a week wtc to get anywhere near that amount!!!! Simple people who dont work couldnt claim 26grand taxcredits....

There are lots of families out there with multiple children. Many of them also claim for disabilities as well.

As an example, which you will no doubt call extreme, but trust me they exist, would be a couple with 6 children, 1 of them disabled. 1 of the parents works 30hrs pw s/e, earning £6k pa. They also receive DLA.
The total amount of Tax Credits alone that they would receive would be £27101

Add on all other benefits to this and the amount becomes ridiculous.

There are claimants out there who receive more than that as they have multiple disabled children.

Tax Credits is a system designed to reward people for having multiple children.

DeeDee74

Your talking of people with6 kids plus having disabilitys thats not the normal income for households plus hb and ct is means tested so come back with proper family income on benefits !!!!

ILW

bloomingflower wrote: »

That's a mahoosive amount and Tesco should be downright shameful enforcing their employees to claim tax credits as a 'top up' just so they can survive.:embarasse_pale_:(

The profit figure is meaningless unless quoted in context.
What is the return on capital and how does that compare to other investment?

CharlieBilly

Nice to see they now breaking the link between inflation and benefits rises NOT. Okay country is in a mess but its not those on benefits that caused this, and who decides its 1% rise do all public sector workers only get 1%. 1% rise if you get £400 is £4 but if you only get £100 a week benefits you now get £1 but I may still have similar bills to pay and they going up a lot like food, energy. So of inflation does leap up we are even worse state

alinwales

CharlieBilly wrote: »

its not those on benefits that caused this

how narrow minded. I'm not on benefits, and I didn't cause it either. At least I'm contributing to the economy rather than sucking the life out of it.

CharlieBilly

I mentioned that because I referring to people who get benefits being hit I accept many others in work didnt either. Oh and I pay taxes too not just on benefits but my works pension

alinwales wrote: »

how narrow minded. I'm not on benefits, and I didn't cause it either. At least I'm contributing to the economy rather than sucking the life out of it.

ILW

CharlieBilly wrote: »

Nice to see they now breaking the link between inflation and benefits rises NOT. Okay country is in a mess but its not those on benefits that caused this, and who decides its 1% rise do all public sector workers only get 1%. 1% rise if you get £400 is £4 but if you only get £100 a week benefits you now get £1 but I may still have similar bills to pay and they going up a lot like food, energy. So of inflation does leap up we are even worse state

Some would say that the level of benefits being paid is part of the problem. So claimants are indirectly responsible for the state we are in.

Spending more than than the tax take for year after year has to cause a problem in the end.

clemmatis

Gentile wrote: »

Its called "skills" and skills are not about how much physical the job is. The more skilled you are in something that is valuable the more you get paid. Simple as that and I expect most people to be aware of this. I cannot believe you are querying this.

As ILW says, it's about the availability of skills -- about scarce skills. Or at least, that's the standard explanation neoclassical economists give. It's an explanation that obscures certain relevant factors (for example, historically, the AMA and BMA have acted as cartels limiting the supply of doctors), and it can neither explain (except by waffle) nor justify the gross inequalities in pay that not only exist, but grow. But it isn't totally false.

The worker doing that job has got only those kind of jobs to fall back on because he chose to skip education and went down the path of unskilled life.

But not only can not everybody gain a high level of education, but if they do -- if they do in formal terms, anyway: if they all gain qualifications -- then the qualifications for jobs will change accordingly (though they do not really need to). Employers who stipulated A Levels will require degrees; and so on.

Sadly, when kids are in school they are never made aware of how important education is and why they should get a degree in medical,dental, IT or law etc.

Though I do agree many children are let down, badly, it may not make that much sense for many more of them to do degrees in medicine or law unless they are prepared to accept that they may have to work in another field afterwards.