tory lies about jobseekers

koiboy

Ministers were accused last night of demonising benefits claimants in an attempt to justify their controversial decision to increase most state handouts by less than inflation.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/voters-brainwashed-by-tory-welfare-myths-shows-new-poll-8437872.html

marlot

Mmm. "Polling commissioned by the Trades Union Congress", so not exactly independent! Without seeing the actual questions asked its hard to come to any conclusions.

As a country we have been living a lifestyle beyond our means for about 30 years, and we're now having to adapt back again. We wasted the benefits of north sea oil.

And I'm talking as someone who is currently unemployed.

Takeaway_Addict

needs moving to discussion time...

miduck

koiboy wrote: »

Ministers were accused last night of demonising benefits claimants in an attempt to justify their controversial decision to increase most state handouts by less than inflation.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/voters-brainwashed-by-tory-welfare-myths-shows-new-poll-8437872.html

Surely this is not news to you?

Yes, the benefits bill is way too high, but the stories being put out by the govt fail to look at the disposable income of those in and out of work: if you give 1% to those on £71 and 0.5% to those on £250, it doesn't take a genius to know who is better off!

You should always take statistics with a pinch of salt - it is rare that they will ever be entirely unbiased (and yes, I include my own example in that!).

brightonman123

there's a major guilt trip going on, making out its 'unfair' that benefits are going up, when many workers' wages being frozen..

%age terms may be misleading, but JSA is only £71 a week - i'd happily have a (MUCH HIGHER!) fixed wage, for a while..

[Deleted User]

brightonman123 wrote: »

there's a major guilt trip going on, making out its 'unfair' that benefits are going up, when many workers' wages being frozen..

%age terms may be misleading, but JSA is only £71 a week - i'd happily have a (MUCH HIGHER!) fixed wage, for a while..

But thats just the point. If you don't like £71 a week, do something about it.

Benefits are not there as an 'option', they're there as an emergency payment to keep you alive until you find a job.

But of course, in this country, a lot of people on benefits dont think like this. Its a lifestyle option for them.

TrickyWicky

[quote=[Deleted User];58351299]
Benefits are not there as an 'option', they're there as an emergency payment to keep you alive until you find a job.[/QUOTE]

No they're not.

I can't get a penny and haven't had a job in several years. Benefits are there for the chosen few that the government decide to help.

Midnighter

[quote=[Deleted User];58351299]But thats just the point. If you don't like £71 a week, do something about it.

Benefits are not there as an 'option', they're there as an emergency payment to keep you alive until you find a job.

But of course, in this country, a lot of people on benefits dont think like this. Its a lifestyle option for them.[/QUOTE]
If only it were that easy. Employers that bother to reply to applications seem to be few and far between.

Jo_F

But it's not just the £71 JSA is it? if you are claiming that, then you also get help with rent, council tax, prescriptions etc.

Whereas someone earning, has to pay all that themselves, rents, council tax, prescriptions etc are all going up, while wages are not.

Johnnytwostep

hear hear!!!

[Deleted User]

Midnighter wrote: »

If only it were that easy. Employers that bother to reply to applications seem to be few and far between.

Yeh. Life is hard.