contraception pill given in schools

j.e.j.

It's interesting that you mention needle exchanges. Would providing clean and sterile needles to drug users also be something that should be done in schools, do you think? (or is it already??)

To the person who thinks sex and cervical smears are completely unrelated, that a child would easily remember to take the Pill regularly, that a missed Pill won't harm any (:eek:) and is better than no Pill at all.. well, I don't know whether to even bother replying to be honest.

The 'easiest contraception' is not the Pill. It is probably the injection, and it has been known to be given to very young girls who keep on getting pregnant.

verysillyguy06

1jim wrote: »

So challenge this action in the courts, I suggest it would be futile as there are so many groups with the same view you have that if there was a reasonable chance of success they would have done so long ago, but if you feel health professionals should be prosecuted why not do so


While you are at it, why not launch a case against needle exchanges, prostitute outreach programmes or other services who support vulnerable people as they are clearly aiding and abetting

You obviously seem to struggle to fully understand a lot of things regarding this subject. It just shows that posting links without understanding the subject is a bit embarrassing for the poster involved...


Tell me again, how would the parents know it was given in the first place?

14 is not 18 as much as you want it to be...if you really think that a 14 year old drug user or prostitute can walk into a school nurses's office and exchange needles or be visited as part of the outreach programme, you are more a fool than I first thought.


To help you out, it would be more like the nurse giving the child a cigarette after explaining all the bad things and the child saying but I like to continue anyway......but cannot buy cigarettes on their own.

Maybe that law is easier for you to grasp?

verysillyguy06

1jim wrote: »

I am more shocked, but not surprised that a lot of people would prefer to make it more difficult for this sexually active 14 year old to get contraception to reduce risk of pregnancy, sti and cancers

Also actually, research shows that parental/child relationship is the way forward and not continuing the same route ...maybe research the subject a bit before going head first into the wrong direction?

j.e.j.

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

To help you out, it would be more like the nurse giving the child a cigarette after explaining all the bad things and the child saying but I like to continue anyway......but cannot buy cigarettes on their own.

That's a pretty good analogy, imo.

Person_one

j.e.j. wrote: »

That's a pretty good analogy, imo.

No its not, as cigarettes are always harmful.

Safe sex is not.

The completely natural and healthy activity that is sex between consenting people should never be compared to an addictive drug that has no benefits and is always injurious to health.

System

I think its a good idea personally No a 14 year old having sex is far from ideal and it'd be better if they waited but if they are going to do it better they have safe sex. We never had any real kind of sex ed at school. Bar putting a condom on a pritt stick. :eek: I knew one person who was having sex at 14, she was in a relationship, but i do remember the one time the condom split and her panic about getting the MAP (put me off sex for a few years!-also as an aside she wasn't the slutty type, she was only with ever with him, and her now fiance)

I waited till i was 16 and in a realtionship before i did it, and by that point i'd done my own research and decided to get the implant. Never had the "talk" with my mum, by the time i did i was already sexually active but she was happy i was being responsible

verysillyguy06

Person_one wrote: »

No its not, as cigarettes are always harmful.

Safe sex is not.

The completely natural and healthy activity that is sex between consenting people should never be compared to an addictive drug that has no benefits and is always injurious to health.

You are absolutely right...and how do the nurse or walk-in staff achieve this with an unknown 14 year old?

inkie

In a school setting, which is what was being discussed in the OP, the school nurse will be a regular visitor, and so has the potential to build up relationship with the patient. As for walk-in staff, they would not be prescribing oral contraception to an unknow 14 yr old, nor anyone else for that matter. That is an ongoing health need. I was a lead nurse in a walk-in centre, and the only type of contraception that we administered was emergency contraception, and condoms.

Torry_Quine

Person_one wrote: »

No its not, as cigarettes are always harmful.

Safe sex is not.

The completely natural and healthy activity that is sex between consenting people should never be compared to an addictive drug that has no benefits and is always injurious to health.

There is only safer sex, not safe sex.

In my opinion sex between children can bring many problems not just possible pregnancy or infections. There is the whole emotional mine-field not to mention the possibility of peer pressure.

verysillyguy06

inkie wrote: »

In a school setting, which is what was being discussed in the OP, the school nurse will be a regular visitor, and so has the potential to build up relationship with the patient. As for walk-in staff, they would not be prescribing oral contraception to an unknow 14 yr old, nor anyone else for that matter. That is an ongoing health need. I was a lead nurse in a walk-in centre, and the only type of contraception that we administered was emergency contraception, and condoms.

Not really, no....from my experiences when I ask a school nurse for information, most of the time it's: No, sorry I dont know her....she is not ill and then I dont see the child....