contraception pill given in schools

1jim

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

No, but then they know and can have a sensible conversation and maybe let the teenager see some sense.

Have you met any school nurse who knows any girl in detail?

Have you met any gps who knows any girl in detail?

And by sensible conversation and see sense do you mean your viewpoint?

verysillyguy06

1jim wrote: »

Then by all means challenge the ruling that is being used by other healthcare professionals if you fell you have a strong case

It has been overused by the health professionals and I would not surprised if it would not stand in a court of law when not in a minister's office or a NHS hospital...

It has been overpolictalised after the teenage pregnancy wave and no-one stopped and thought about it

Jinx

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

Having sex is a health need? Not if it is illegal.....

Not wishing to go off topic, but drug use (of the class A kind etc) is illegal - and that def requires health needs.

To me that law and medical services are not directly linked. One is the ideal and the other the reality.

verysillyguy06

1jim wrote: »

Have you met any gps who knows any girl in detail?

And by sensible conversation and see sense do you mean your viewpoint?

No, I do not mean this...and a 'busy body' health professional who wants to give the 'right' advice is better?

It is still an adult providing weighted opinion on a matter...do you really know what should happen under the Gillick consultancy ?

1jim

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

It has been overused by the health professionals and I would not surprised if it would not stand in a court of law when not in a minister's office or a NHS hospital...

It has been overpolictalised after the teenage pregnancy wave and no-one stopped and thought about it

I really don't think it has been overused, so can I check...are you happy with a doctor giving out contraception to a 14 year old in school as that clearly would fit the legislation word for word?

verysillyguy06

1jim wrote: »

I really don't think it has been overused, so can I check...are you happy with a doctor giving out contraception to a 14 year old in school as that clearly would fit the legislation word for word?

Personally? I am not but yes, you are right now, it does fit the criteria...but only if he/she follows the guidelines and not just play lip service

1jim

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

do you really know what should happen under the Gillick consultancy ?

If by gillick consultancy you mean do I know what should be covered in a consultation to ensure compliance with the gillick competence then he's I do, perhaps you could let us know what your understanding of what should happen is

j.e.j.

1jim wrote: »

But it's fine for her to get it from the GP or the family planning clinic and for her to tell her mates?

Yes.

1) She would be going to the GP and asking for the contraception,as opposed to having contraception 'waved in front of her' in a non-medical environment
2) The GP has her medical records there and is medically trained, experienced and qualified
3) she can tell her mates, but it is then up to them to go to their own GPs, rather than casually asking the school nurse for their own packet of Pills!

verysillyguy06

1jim wrote: »

If by gillick consultancy you mean do I know what should be covered in a consultation to ensure compliance with the gillick competence then he's I do, perhaps you could let us know what your understanding of what should happen is

I let you go first as you had all the links....by the way, the second one only talks about minors between 16-18...did you really not read them before you posted them? Why not? If you did, why post that link if it is clearly not relevant in situations with the pill for 14 year olds?

1jim

j.e.j. wrote: »

Yes.

1) She would be going to the GP and asking for the contraception,as opposed to having contraception 'waved in front of her' in a non-medical environment

A bit like the school nurse room, complete with medical equipment and the like?
2) The GP has her medical records there and is medically trained, experienced and qualified As opposed the school nurse who is not trained, experienced or qualified?
3) she can tell her mates, but it is then up to them to go to their own GPs, rather than casually asking the school nurse for their own packet of Pills! Not sure there's a lot casual about this, you seem to be under the impression that the child walks into the school nurse, asks for the pill and is asked which colour she wants.

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