how will benefits be affected if my asylumseeker boyfriend movesin.

barbarawright

margaretclare wrote: »

The OP 'did not come here for opinions but for financial advice'.

I am amazed. Anyone who comes here asking 'how to fiddle the system' will get short shrift! Why in God's name would anyone give an asylum-seeker the time of day let alone anything else. Marry him?? Just so that he can stay here? And claim more benefits? Aren't we in a recession, everyone supposed to be tightening belts, cuts everywhere? Haven't we got enough of our own, our poor, our homeless, our unemployed?

I didn't think we did give advice on how to claim more benefits. There are people who make a living out of finding loopholes and fiddling the system. I didn't think that anyone here did that.

Perhaps the answer is in the phrase 'in God's name' but I guess you're an atheist? Presumably you would have said the same about Jewish refugees in the 1930s? (a somewhat worse recession than the current ones). Have you *any* idea what drives someone to leave their own country knowing they will probably be detained in the country you want to think of as your new home? Do you actually read the papers?

mumps

margaretclare wrote: »

As leveller2911 says, and if you go to Calais you can easily see these guys, sitting around on waste ground waiting for their nightly attempt to get on board any lorry. The point is, if international law says that they should ask for asylum in the first safe country, from Iran and Afghanistan (commonly) they have passed through several safe countries and France is certainly a safe country. If they are in so much danger back home then why is it you only see young guys in Calais? Why aren't the families, the old, the very young, the females, also in danger?.

I have a friend who is a social worker, working with female asylum seekers and their children.

My DH's paternal grandfather arrived here in flight from Tsarist Russia in 1895, but he came with his wife and small daughter.

I am assuming England wasn't the first safe country he came to?

The first thing they did was to learn English and they worked all their lives, using the useful skills they'd brought with them. Modern 'asylum seekers' can be found in car washes, delivering leaflets for pizzas and takeaways, or working in burger bars.

So they are working?

mumps

barbarawright wrote: »

Perhaps the answer is in the phrase 'in God's name' but I guess you're an atheist? Presumably you would have said the same about Jewish refugees in the 1930s? (a somewhat worse recession than the current ones). Have you *any* idea what drives someone to leave their own country knowing they will probably be detained in the country you want to think of as your new home? Do you actually read the papers?

The number of countries who closed the borders to these poor people is hard to believe. I wonder how they felt when they saw films of Belsen and other camps?

barbarawright

mumps wrote: »

The number of countries who closed the borders to these poor people is hard to believe. I wonder how they felt when they saw films of Belsen and other camps?

Perhaps they felt like so many posters do about Darfur or Syria - mass murder doesn't matter if it doesn't involve Brits...

mumps

barbarawright wrote: »

Perhaps they felt like so many posters do about Darfur or Syria - mass murder doesn't matter if it doesn't involve Brits...

You are probably right, do you think skin colour comes into it?

jizzler

So we can safely assume Mumps isnt english born & bred then judgeing by there comments :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

mumps

jizzler wrote: »

So we can safely assume Mumps isnt english born & bred then judgeing by there comments :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Born in England, British/Irish heritage.

mumps

jizzler wrote: »

So we can safely assume Mumps isnt english born & bred then judgeing by there comments :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Why would you assume that?

princessdon

HappyMJ wrote: »

I didn't think asylum seekers were allowed to work...

They aren't . Until their status changes. Many I meet volunteer as can't abide handouts, many others have zero intention of working legally and manage to send money home. They are the ones that often have failed asylum and come purely for benefit reasons.

starrystarry

barbarawright wrote: »

Perhaps the answer is in the phrase 'in God's name' but I guess you're an atheist?

Sorry, am I missing something here, what's atheism got to do with anything?