Unattended young kids in car - would you have done anything?

miss_independent

pulliptears wrote: »

Dont get me wrong, I wouldn't leave my children in the car, but having them kidnapped and murdered would be low down on my list of reasons why.

Perceived crime and actual crime are 2 very different things. As Sharnad can't give me an example of an English child taken from a car and murdered I think its probably a very unlikely scenario in the UK don't you?

Unlikely, but not impossible and I would imagine if it did happen there would be a public outcry of "Well, what did you expect leaving a child unattended" - lets face it, there is a precedent for that which I won't mention but there was a massive backlash against the parents.

I don't understand why you would take the risk tbh. Its not like depriving your child of the chance to play outside in case they get kidnapped, there is no benefit to the child of being left in a car.

I was frequently left in the car as a child. I was locked in (so I wouldn't get kidnapped!) and I used to feel very scared and claustrophobic. I also used to get very hot, find it hard to breathe and would end up hiding under the seat when people looked in the window. In all these cases, my Dad had just popped to the shop for "5 minutes". It was always at least 20 minutes by the time he got back. Once it was an hour and a half and I was very distressed when he came back. I remember drawing "Help" in the steam of the window because I was convinced something bad had happened to my Dad and no one knew I was there. IMO its a cruel, lazy thing to do to your kids and there is no reasonable justification. Sorry.

Welshwoofs

God how totally irresponsible!!!!! They should have got CCTV footage of that parent and shown it all over the store...in fact the local news. Actually they should have plastered the parent all over the 9pm news to shame them! Actually, forget about shaming them; just have social services take the kids away as they are clearly unfit to be parents. In fact get them sterialised!!! They should bring back hanging for this sort of thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't they realise what could have happened???? There could have been a meteor strike - 500 of the damn things land every year - a 1 in 700,000 chance of being hit by one in your lifetime!!! GOD it doesn't bear thinking about does it....sure it's a small risk, but any risk is UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

What if a donkey got in the car??? More people a year die from being kicked to death by a donkey than die in plane crashes...and we all know that people are dying in plane crashes all the time.

There could be a flash flood across the Tesco carpark!! Or a small earthquake with its epicentre under the car!! It's virus season ... how do we know that the Norovirus won't mutate within the confines of that vehicle and in the time it takes for that lazy, unfit parent to return, their offspring won't have crapped their own entrails out?????

Someone once found a poisonous spider in a bunch of bananas from the supermarket....do we know whether this parent had compounded their many faults by leaving some in the car?? How about a ballpoint pen?? If she'd just been scribbling out her shopping list she could have left one there.....and doesn't she realise that 150 people a year die from choking on them?? That's grounds for calling the police, ambulance, fire brigade, RNLI, mountain rescue, fast response bio-chemical team and the Salvation Army right there!!

Some people just shouldn't have kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!














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sharnad

pulliptears wrote: »

Both returned unharmed, not raped and murdered as your scaremongering would suggest

If you would prefer cases of where children have been taken and not returned in uk you can find examples. You wanted uk examples of being taken. It's through luck that it was car thirds and not a !!!!!philes. Do you think that children don't go missing in the uk

sedment

Personally wouldnt leave my two in the car, as the ages they are at, (3 and 6) I cant be sure they wont be fighting!!
However, when they maybe get older I will probably, if i',m just nipping in for something. I have seen this before, with a toddler of maybe two, might have been sleeping and woke up disorientated and hysterically crying in the next car. Luckily for me, I was with my mum and i nipped into Tesco with the registration and she stayed with the crying baby,and they put out 3 tannoy announcments out. But after 10 mins, no-one came forward. So the supermarket phoned the police, who were waiting for the mother who came out of the supermarket with a laden trolly. Not a violet person normally, but the poor soul was inconsolable, could have swung for her!!

lilymay1

I've not read this thread and someone may have already mentioned it, but I remember listeing to Jeremy Vine on Radio2 a couple of years ago and he was discussing this very topic.

One of his guests was a father who had left his baby in the car whilst he nipped into the supermarket. He had been gone about 5 minutes and when he got back the vehicle was on fire. His son died as a result.
One of the callers who phoned in had done the same thing, only as they were walking away from their car they decided it would be stupid to leave the child alone so went back and took the baby into the shop. When they came back their car was also on fire after an electric fault or something similar.

I know it's rare, but statistics have never gone in my favour. I wouldn't ever be able to forgive myself if anything ever happened to my son as a result of my negligence. The 'it'll never happen to me' mentality is a dangerous one.

pulliptears

sharnad wrote: »

If you would prefer cases of where children have been taken and not returned in uk you can find examples. You wanted uk examples of being taken. It's through luck that it was car thirds and not a !!!!!philes. Do you think that children don't go missing in the uk

Now you are being silly.

You stated that leaving kids in cars would lead to them being kidnapped and murdered. I am yet to see an example of this in the UK.
Of course children go missing in the UK, that was never in doubt. However as far as I can see none have been taken from cars and murdered have they now.

sharnad

pulliptears wrote: »

Now you are being silly.

You stated that leaving kids in cars would lead to them being kidnapped and murdered. I am yet to see an example of this in the UK.
Of course children go missing in the UK, that was never in doubt. However as far as I can see none have been taken from cars and murdered have they now.

Ames glover five month old taken from car 199o not found No body found yet so may not have been murdered

pulliptears

sharnad wrote: »

Ames glover five month old taken from car 199o not found No body found yet so may not have been murdered

Well done. It's taken you 2 days to find an example and still you have merely one child taken 23 years ago. Not bad statistics in what, 100 years of motoring in this country.

sharnad

pulliptears wrote: »

Well done. It's taken you 2 days to find an example and still you have merely one child taken 23 years ago. Not bad statistics in what, 100 years of motoring in this country.

It's taken that long to find the exact example you wanted while you ignore all of the other examples that didnt meet your criteria .

It's easier to say a child won't be returned if it was that long ago

Welshwoofs

pulliptears wrote: »

Well done. It's taken you 2 days to find an example and still you have merely one child taken 23 years ago. Not bad statistics in what, 100 years of motoring in this country.

1 in 23 years makes it a significantly lower risk than being crushed by a vending machine...which happens approximately 2.3 times a year.