Cameron Constituency Food Bank Faces Closure As Local Economy Stalls

BobQ

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2241079/Mother-Vickie-Robins-Quedgeley-Gloucestershire-starves-visits-Foodbank-ensure-children-eat.html

Ity seems even the Daily Mail are reporting the way a couple of "strivers" are having to rely on foodbanks. Surely some mistake here.

Generali

BobQ wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2241079/Mother-Vickie-Robins-Quedgeley-Gloucestershire-starves-visits-Foodbank-ensure-children-eat.html

Ity seems even the Daily Mail are reporting the way a couple of "strivers" are having to rely on foodbanks. Surely some mistake here.

If people are 'having' to rely on foodbanks because they made bad decisions I'm not sure that's the Tories' fault unless we're saying that welfare should also cover debt repayments, Sky, car lease, gym membership etc.

DecentLivingWage

BobQ wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2241079/Mother-Vickie-Robins-Quedgeley-Gloucestershire-starves-visits-Foodbank-ensure-children-eat.html

Ity seems even the Daily Mail are reporting the way a couple of "strivers" are having to rely on foodbanks. Surely some mistake here.

Yes Bob, it seems that they're one step away from homelessness for many of them - esp in London. New official figures show that the number of homeless families staying in B&Bs;in London doubled in a year between 2010 and 2011 – and is rising even faster this year.

Between 2010 and 2011 the number of homeless households with dependent children and/or pregnant woman with no other dependants in bed & breakfast hotels in London doubled from 1,230 to 2,460. Over the same period, the number of families staying in B&B accommodation for more than six weeks almost trebled, from 190 to 560.

Data for London for the first six months of 2012 suggests the problem has got even worse this year, with 1,910 families with children in B&Bs;compared to 1,020 in the same period in 2011, and 820 in B&B accommodation for more than six weeks – more than in the whole of 2011.

Fine everyone. bash the parents if it makes you feel good, but what about the little ones? I feel sickened ,esp at Christmas!

Generali

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

Yes Bob, it seems that they're one step away from homelessness for many of them - esp in London. New official figures show that the number of homeless families staying in B&Bs;in London doubled in a year between 2010 and 2011 – and is rising even faster this year.

Between 2010 and 2011 the number of homeless households with dependent children and/or pregnant woman with no other dependants in bed & breakfast hotels in London doubled from 1,230 to 2,460. Over the same period, the number of families staying in B&B accommodation for more than six weeks almost trebled, from 190 to 560.

Data for London for the first six months of 2012 suggests the problem has got even worse this year, with 1,910 families with children in B&Bs;compared to 1,020 in the same period in 2011, and 820 in B&B accommodation for more than six weeks – more than in the whole of 2011.

Fine everyone. bash the parents if it makes you feel good, but what about the little ones? I feel sickened ,esp at Christmas!

What exactly do you expect? Welfare for those with children provides ample money as my example shows. The Government can't protect people from their own bad decisions. I would be given £26,000 a year tax free if was back in the situation I was in when I left the UK. If this isn't enough, how much is and who do you expect to pay for it?

ILW

Wish someone would come up with some numbers as to where the money is going. I would suspect paying back loans from

Generali

ILW wrote: »

Wish someone would come up with some numbers as to where the money is going. I would suspect paying back loans from

It's a living amount of money, in fact quite a lot more than what is required to keep body and soul together.

One way or another bad decisions are being made if £26,000 for a family of four isn't enough to live on. Maybe there are addictions that are being paid to support first (smoking, alcoholism, gambling etc aren't cheap), maybe there's debt, maybe people just do stupid things with the money. My S-i-L regularly has to 'borrow' the rent money or to pay utilities bills because she has spent a few hundred bucks on cheap clothes and spends hundreds each week on groceries.

Her OH is on $100,000 or thereabouts and could make plenty more as he's a public sector worker doing shift work (kerchiiiiing!) so there's no good reason for her to be broke and in massive debt all the time except that she's dumb as a box of frogs when it comes to money.

GeorgeHowell

Generali wrote: »

I often wonder the same thing. I suspect that the problem is either vastly over-exaggerated or larger than anyone dare admit.

Given the numbers that I got from the Government's website I fear that it's the latter. Why would anyone with kids and an ounce of sense work? You'd have to be rich or mad.

We won't know, firstly because I suspect that the figures would be too embarassing. But above all who would make the judgments as to who is a lazy, f e c k less, workshy layabout and who is a genuine hardship case deserving of help from the community ?

Labour's indiscriminate welfare policy, effectively making working or not working both legitimate lifestyle choices, has made things worse for the genuine cases, because all long-term welfare claimants tend to get tarred with the same brush.

grizzly1911

Generali wrote: »

What exactly do you expect? Welfare for those with children provides ample money as my example shows. The Government can't protect people from their own bad decisions. I would be given £26,000 a year tax free if was back in the situation I was in when I left the UK. If this isn't enough, how much is and who do you expect to pay for it?

AIUI if councils place you in accomodation you do not have any choice where they send you. You have to sign to accept places even before you se them - for obvious reasons in the councils benefit.

Once there you will find that the biggest proportion of the magical £26000 will be siphoned away in housing costs..

Generali

grizzly1911 wrote: »

AIUI if councils place you in accomodation you do not have any choice where they send you. You have to sign to accept places even before you se them - for obvious reasons in the councils benefit.

Once there you will find that the biggest proportion of the magical £26000 will be siphoned away in housing costs..

Really? You think that the council will force you to pay perhaps £400 a week in rent and there's nothing you can do about it? This is getting desperate.

Some people make bad decisions and that is the way the world is. To some extent the welfare state protects people from the consequences of that but there have to be limits otherwise what is the point of paying tax and being the cash cow for people that don't want to work? That is really what has happened in Greece: nobody wants to pay taxes because they have no faith in the system as a whole.

exarmydreamer

I'm not quite sure, if people know that some benefits are taxable i.e contribution based JSA and ESA for instance. So this would be taken from source therefore effecting this magic £26000.

Just wanted to point that one out.