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Cameron Constituency Food Bank Faces Closure As Local Economy Stalls
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Can you give any true examples of where benefits will not cover the cost of food?
I am sure they will cover the cost of some food, some shelter, some warmth. The problem is that they probably won't cover all of them all of the time.
Whilst you may technically be entitled to these benefits whether you actually get them and the quality/quantity of what you get is probably very different.
I don't know but do those on benefit get flexed amounts to allow for higher energy bills in the winter?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Who are "they".GeorgeHowell wrote: »They know their rights, they'll get whatever they can.
I wouldn't know what I could claim for if I needed to and something tells me it wouldn't be forthcoming.
Taking headlines, there was an interesting Panorama programme on last week. Two of the entitled cases there got far from what they expected. Obviously we don't know the full extent of the individual stories. I don't believe it is so easy just to drop into a nice 4 bed detached in leafy suburbia gratis.
I don't dispute some cases exist where the system is thoroughly, legally, exploited. No different to a small number of cases where legal loopholes are fully exploited to avoid taxation. In the same way it isn't the vast majority that benefit either way."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
vivatifosi wrote: »In terms of my local one, which is a Trussell Trust initiative, the people receiving the food help do so on a short term basis and by referral (eg from a GP, social worker. job centre person who knows that person is struggling). You can't just turn up every week for your bag of freebies. So a typical user could be something like a family where one person has lost their job but then they get a big bill because say, their heating system has broken down.
I donated to the same organisation the other day. I know there are people who have lost their jobs and are struggling at the moment.grizzly1911 wrote: »I don't know but do those on benefit get flexed amounts to allow for higher energy bills in the winter?
I don't know the ins and outs but my friend is disabled but the job centre seem to think she should be moved into employment so her benefits have been cut for a while now, she also doesn't get her winter fuel payment and her condition means that she has more joint pain when she is cold.:(0 -
Can you give any true examples of where benefits will not cover the cost of food?
Is this in any way related to the quote?Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »Who are "they".
I wouldn't know what I could claim for if I needed to and something tells me it wouldn't be forthcoming.
Taking headlines, there was an interesting Panorama programme on last week. Two of the entitled cases there got far from what they expected. Obviously we don't know the full extent of the individual stories. I don't believe it is so easy just to drop into a nice 4 bed detached in leafy suburbia gratis.
I don't dispute some cases exist where the system is thoroughly, legally, exploited. No different to a small number of cases where legal loopholes are fully exploited to avoid taxation. In the same way it isn't the vast majority that benefit either way.
They are those who would rather live on benefits than work for a living. Any who don't get every penny the system says they can must be pretty dim. The social workers usually make sure that they claim everything they possibly can.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
GeorgeHowell wrote: »Alternatively he could read the Grauniad and follow life's progress on the Planet Zog.
Why do lefties persist in trying to use the term Daily Mail as an insult ? For those who do read it it's a badge of honour, and for those who don't it just comes over as a puerile and rather desperate attempt to score a point in a lost argument.
I cannot speak for lefties but I do occasionally read the Daily Mail. Its readership is complex. Some believe every word and are reassured that their prejudices are confirmed by the reported facts. Some have no real understanding of politics but like to regurgitage its content to pretend they do. I would never buy it, but friends sometimes offer it to me as evidence of their arguments - the rants of the likes of Mr Pierce are always entertaining.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
I cannot speak for lefties but I do occasionally read the Daily Mail. Its readership is complex. Some believe every word and are reassured that their prejudices are confirmed by the reported facts. Some have no real understanding of politics but like to regurgitage its content to pretend they do. I would never buy it, but friends sometimes offer it to me as evidence of their arguments - the rants of the likes of Mr Pierce are always entertaining.
How do you know what your fellow Mail readers think? Are you God - or simply suffering from the delusion of omniscience so common on the Left?0 -
I cannot speak for lefties but I do occasionally read the Daily Mail. Its readership is complex. Some believe every word and are reassured that their prejudices are confirmed by the reported facts. Some have no real understanding of politics but like to regurgitage its content to pretend they do. I would never buy it, but friends sometimes offer it to me as evidence of their arguments - the rants of the likes of Mr Pierce are always entertaining.
The Daily Mirror -- the only national as far as I am aware to feature this food bank story, and probably would not have done it it were not in Cameron's constituency -- could be argued to be an equally rubbish offering on the other side of the political fence. But it rarely gets a mention. The Guardian more often does because it's readership is perceived to comprise the champagne socialists and others who come in for so much derision because of their bare-faced hypocrisy. The Mail worries the left because it's readership is large, and because it often blazons the sort of stuff which they know will strike a chord even with many traditional Labour voters. Conservatives have few comparable worries about the Grauniad or the Mirror.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
How do you know what your fellow Mail readers think? Are you God - or simply suffering from the delusion of omniscience so common on the Left?
More pontification. I was asked a question I expressed my opinion. Its based on my experience of speaking to a small sample of Mail readers. I concede it is not a full and complete analysis of all Daily Mail readers on all dates in all years since the inception of that august publication.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0
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