Universal Jobmatch - non mandatory

krok

This is the latest from PCS meeting with DWP.

I think it clearly states that UJM is not mandatory.

• Department for Work and Pensions group

Universal Jobmatch - Update for Members

3 December 2012
Since it went live on 19th November, Universal Jobmatch has encountered various problems, such as the advertising of bogus vacancies, and is attracting wider public interest.
Following our initial discussions with DWP, the background to the new service was given in DWP/BB/153/12. In response to critical press coverage and enquiries from campaign organisations members and branches PCS pressured DWP for clearer information about the current difficulties with Universal Jobmatch. Additionally, PCS is receiving reports and queries from members concerned that some local managers appear to be putting pressure on advisors to misrepresent the mandatory nature of signing up to the new service.
Non Mandatory


At the recent meeting, DWP management confirmed that the use of Universal Jobmatch is non-mandatory. On the security issues, management acknowledged that there had been ‘teething issues’ but that these were being resolved. PCS has put pressure on management to ensure a human rather than an automated IT check for the placing of vacancies by employers, to avoid the embarrassment of the bogus MI6 vacancy being repeated.
PCS believes that it is essential for the future of the new service that jobseekers can have full confidence in the security of the system and trust and respect their employment adviser. It is therefore extremely damaging that some managers are putting pressure on jobcentre staff to tell jobseekers that they must register or
grant their adviser access to their Universal Jobmatch account. This is clearly not currently the position and to suggest that it is would amount to official misdirection. PCS is now seeking to establish exactly what the legal position is and in the meantime strongly advises members not to put themselves in the position of misinforming the public about Universal Jobmatch.
Performance Management


There is likely to be management pressure to hit the target of 80% of jobseekers using the system by August 2013. However, it is clearly inappropriate for individual targets to be applied to Universal Jobmatch account registration, and any reports of excessive pressure on advisors to hit this target should be raised locally with PCS in the first instance. PCS has also had some reports that in some areas it has been suggested that the rate of jobseeker registrations or even the possible number of jobseeker directions associated with Universal Jobmatch account registration may be used to assess performance or lead to some form of monitoring or even to a PIP. PCS advice is that it is impossible to see how this would be appropriate and that in all cases where it may arise members should talk to their workplace rep.

john539

saintjammyswine wrote: »

Just chipping in with one comment on this thread,


Mandatory means compulsory for the person who has been mandated to do something, not everyone.

The original argument was whether it was a mandatory DWP policy that people register/sign up to UJM.

saintjammyswine

john539 wrote: »

The original argument was whether it was a mandatory DWP policy that people register/sign up to UJM.

I know, just pointing out that because someone has been mandated to attend or partake in an activity, doesnt mean that everyone else would have to.

csmw

krok wrote: »

Cant you read,

The staff facing compulsory redundancy want to keep working for DWP. The department responsible for finding jobs for people should not be making staff compulsorily redundant.
You could be next

If you go to their website you will see it has everything to do withUJM

Can you???

As I stated before exactly where in that post did it say it was related to ujm or even to the job centre.

DWP= department for work and pensions.... It is not just the job centre!!!

So before you scaremonger learn a little about the actual organisation your referring to instead of copying and pasting snippings from their union website

john539

saintjammyswine wrote: »

I know, just pointing out that because someone has been mandated to attend or partake in an activity, doesnt mean that everyone else would have to.

We're not talking about something being mandated, which advisors can wrongly/rightly choose to do.

It's about a mandatory policy and advisors implementing a DWP mandatory policy, where they don't have choice.

krok

csmw wrote: »

Can you???

As I stated before exactly where in that post did it say it was related to ujm or even to the job centre.

DWP= department for work and pensions.... It is not just the job centre!!!

So before you scaremonger learn a little about the actual organisation your referring to instead of copying and pasting snippings from their union website

Not very well informed are you.

• Department for Work and Pensions group

PCS Condemns DWP Issuing Compulsory Redundancy Notices to 43 staff

15 November 2012
On 15th November DWP issued notices of compulsory redundancy to 43 members of staff, comprising 40 AAs and 3 AOs. PCS condemns this appalling decision.
It is an attack not just on the 43 members of staff but also an attack upon the job security of every PCS member in DWP.
PCS met the Permanent Secretary recently to urge him to intervene to stop these compulsory redundancy notices being issued. Sadly, despite our best efforts to persuade him otherwise, he has now agreed to the issue of the notices.
No Justification

There is no justification for this decision. These redundancies are nothing to do with DWP trying to cut staff. Instead they resulted from other decisions that DWP has made, such as ending the AA role in Job Centres and closing a number of benefit centres. DWP has largely achieved these main objectives and has no requirement to make these staff redundant as well.
There is work for these staff to do. With unemployment high there is no shortage of work in DWP. DWP needs more staff, not less, to manage our extremely high workloads. Making staff redundant just increases the work for others to do and adds to the pressure and stress that everyone else is under. The staff may leave but the work does not go away.
Desperate to Stay in Work

Most of the staff facing compulsory redundancy are desperate to keep their jobs. They want to work and they want to continue to work for DWP. It is extraordinary that the government department responsible for finding work for people should at the same time be making its own staff compulsorily redundant. It makes no sense for DWP to force its own staff onto benefits while at the same time telling everyone on benefits that they should go and find a job.
PCS is committed to fully supporting the staff who want to remain in work and we will do everything we can to ensure that their job is protected. It is clear that DWP’s decision to hand out compulsory redundancy notices to these staff is an act of extreme provocation.

Is this ok for you or do you want more evidence.
Cant you see when everything is computerised jobs will go. If you cant see this then i feel sorry for you.

csmw

krok wrote: »

Not very well informed are you.

• Department for Work and Pensions group

PCS Condemns DWP Issuing Compulsory Redundancy Notices to 43 staff

15 November 2012
On 15th November DWP issued notices of compulsory redundancy to 43 members of staff, comprising 40 AAs and 3 AOs. PCS condemns this appalling decision.
It is an attack not just on the 43 members of staff but also an attack upon the job security of every PCS member in DWP.
PCS met the Permanent Secretary recently to urge him to intervene to stop these compulsory redundancy notices being issued. Sadly, despite our best efforts to persuade him otherwise, he has now agreed to the issue of the notices.
No Justification

There is no justification for this decision. These redundancies are nothing to do with DWP trying to cut staff. Instead they resulted from other decisions that DWP has made, such as ending the AA role in Job Centres and closing a number of benefit centres. DWP has largely achieved these main objectives and has no requirement to make these staff redundant as well.
There is work for these staff to do. With unemployment high there is no shortage of work in DWP. DWP needs more staff, not less, to manage our extremely high workloads. Making staff redundant just increases the work for others to do and adds to the pressure and stress that everyone else is under. The staff may leave but the work does not go away.
Desperate to Stay in Work

Most of the staff facing compulsory redundancy are desperate to keep their jobs. They want to work and they want to continue to work for DWP. It is extraordinary that the government department responsible for finding work for people should at the same time be making its own staff compulsorily redundant. It makes no sense for DWP to force its own staff onto benefits while at the same time telling everyone on benefits that they should go and find a job.
PCS is committed to fully supporting the staff who want to remain in work and we will do everything we can to ensure that their job is protected. It is clear that DWP’s decision to hand out compulsory redundancy notices to these staff is an act of extreme provocation.

Is this ok for you or do you want more evidence.
Cant you see when everything is computerised jobs will go. If you cant see this then i feel sorry for you.

Again where does it say it's related to ujm..... Pluses if you read it says 40 aa posts.....there are no aa's left within Jc which it clearly states!!! The lowest grade we have is an ao.

You really are laughable try and understand what you are reading before attempting to use it as a quote

krok

csmw wrote: »

Again where does it say it's related to ujm..... Pluses if you read it says 40 aa posts.....there are no aa's left within Jc which it clearly states!!! The lowest grade we have is an ao.

You really are laughable try and understand what you are reading before attempting to use it as a quote

The only one who is laughable is you, You still can not understand that it will be more job losses in the dwp, jobcenters etc. Wait and see.

If you think there wont be, then you must be completely brainwashed.

Typical DWP employee. arrogant and not willing to see the truth.

csmw

krok wrote: »

The only one who is laughable is you, You still can not understand that it will be more job losses in the dwp, jobcenters etc. Wait and see.

If you think there wont be, then you must be completely brainwashed.

Typical DWP employee. arrogant and not willing to see the truth.

I can see the truth quite clearly, the country is in crisis and companies are closing daily where people are losing there jobs... Why would you think a government department would be any different???

But you stated you said the redundancies were within the job centre which they are NOT.... You stated they were because of UJM which again they are NOT!!!

And you are yet to substantiate your claims, but are very quick to post links to a union website without knowing what it relates to.

Clearly you are the one who has no understanding!

xsupercarlx

denla wrote: »

I get the feeling jobseeking and some others are job centre plus advisors and trying to trick people into getting sanctioned. Offer wrong advice and more benefit seekers get sanctioned, and they get more commission for meeting targets.

Nooo

iluvmarmite wrote: »

As .....I am told.

Don't knock the receptionists and cleaners, without them (or me?) we wouldn't get anything done.

But keep us updated please. Taa.