An independant Scotland will have to reapply to EU

BobQ

zagubov wrote: »

I agree but what's the unique asset the EU provides that say EFTA or the EEA don't (with far fewer snags and lower cost).

You mean apart from free trade and not having artificial barriers to trade or additional import duties?

One benefit is that the whole of the EU operates a common set of standards for a range of products. Obviously whoever you sell goods and services to has their own standards that they may apply to you but having the same ones for a large range of countries is a plus point. I know we moan about absurd EU banana standards or whatever but knowing that you can sell your products (or buy them) in the EU using the same standards you use at home is a plus point for industry.

DpchMd

Instead of giving Scotland the opportunity to decide whether they want to be part of the UK, why don't we hold a referendum in England, NI and Wales to decide whether we want them in the UK?

If you don't want to be a part of this great country, get lost. Enjoy poverty.

robmatic

DpchMd wrote: »

If you don't want to be a part of this great country, get lost. Enjoy poverty.

The subtle point that you're missing is that the majority of people in Scotland wish to remain in the UK.

DpchMd

robmatic wrote: »

The subtle point that you're missing is that the majority of people in Scotland wish to remain in the UK.

So why don't they just put it to the vote and move on?

Generali

DpchMd wrote: »

So why don't they just put it to the vote and move on?

I think that's the plan.

It seems highly unlikely that Scotland will vote for independence although it's worth noting that the last vote in 1979 had a small majority in favour: independence wasn't granted as a majority of the eligible electorate had to vote in favour not a majority of people voting. The 1979 result in a year or so would result in an independent Scotland or at least in the start of an almighty bun fight.

zagubov

BobQ wrote: »

You mean apart from free trade and not having artificial barriers to trade or additional import duties?

One benefit is that the whole of the EU operates a common set of standards for a range of products. Obviously whoever you sell goods and services to has their own standards that they may apply to you but having the same ones for a large range of countries is a plus point. I know we moan about absurd EU banana standards or whatever but knowing that you can sell your products (or buy them) in the EU using the same standards you use at home is a plus point for industry.

Oooooooookay. :cool:
Although I'm a bit suspicious that the EFTA members probably adopt at least most of that anyway via the EEA. So not quite sure we've reached the big unique selling point for the EU yet.

DpchMd wrote: »

Instead of giving Scotland the opportunity to decide whether they want to be part of the UK, why don't we hold a referendum in England, NI and Wales to decide whether we want them in the UK?

If you don't want to be a part of this great country, get lost. Enjoy poverty.

After that, which other groups would you to like vote to expel from the country!!??:eek::eek::eek::eek:

BertieUK

DpchMd wrote: »

So why don't they just put it to the vote and move on?

I sure hope that the common sense voter will indeed vote with their hearts and keep Scotland within the United Kingdom ,otherwise they will suffer in more ways the one, thats the reality that I believe most Scots believe.

Or will they have their ancestors turning in their graves?

zagubov

BertieUK wrote: »

I sure hope that the common sense voter will indeed vote with their hearts and keep Scotland within the United Kingdom ,otherwise they will suffer in more ways the one, thats the reality that I believe most Scots believe.

Or will they have their ancestors turning in their graves?

They've been voting with their hearts instead of their heads for long enough, and it seems to have given them half-emptied oilfileds, unworked coalmines, a steel industry transplanted to Northants, car industry closed down, demolished industrial estates, a short-lived population, high crime and disability rates, and a country that's apparently now too weakened to stand on its own feet by the unionists own accounts.

I very much think unionism'll have to up its game to sell more of the same to Scotland.:rotfl::rotfl:

And there's enough unemployed to roll their ancestors bodies in their graves to save them doing it themselves.:D

robmatic

DpchMd wrote: »

So why don't they just put it to the vote and move on?

If the SNP thought that they would get a result in their favour, they would have pushed to hold one already.

zenmaster

BobQ wrote: »

The situation of citizens would need to be resolved quickly because many Scottish people live and work in the rest of the UK and vice versa.

I suspect the situation of most existing UK nationals would be easily resolved since it would make sense for any Scottish born person living in or working in the rest of UK to have an automatic right to retain UK citizenship if they wished to do so. I imagine Scotland would grant a similar automatic right to non-Scots living/working in Scotland.

The situation of a Scot living/working in the another EU nation might be more problematic but I imagine they might have to rely on the fact they were born in an EU country.

You disappoint me.

I was rather hoping that they would all become illegal immigrants overnight, and be rounded up and repatriated.

Of course, with the SNP in power, they could always claim asylum.