An independant Scotland will have to reapply to EU

chucknorris

Generali wrote: »

It was put over the tannoy. Mr Xxxxxxxx in bay 5 row h seat n please come to the car park as Mrs Xxxxxxxx has finished shopping. It was like the announcements where a car has been blocked in.

Only Radio 5 and Match of the Day picked up on it too.

V funny.

My dear old mum lives near Dorking and I am a big fan of the A25. It's one of my favourite roads.

LOL I wonder if it was a joke? If not it should be done as one.

I take it that you mean cycling on the A25 (Which I do know from your previous posts that you are into cycling). I tend to do faster shorter trips on a heavier bike, i.e. just to Epsom and back on my mountain bike (its not too bad actually at only 13.5kg) its a reasonable workout for me at just over an hour. I am thinking of getting a road bike but keep thinking what's the point as it will take longer to get the same calories burned.

vectistim

I haven't seen any explanation of this question:

How will a newly formed Scottish Central Bank deal with the debt ridden banks it should probably be assuming regulatory responsibility for:
Lloyds - TSB and Bank of Scotland
Royal Bank of Scotland
If they then don't produce their own currency what credit rating will they get without the ability to devalue or print their own money?

zagubov

vectistim wrote: »

I haven't seen any explanation of this question:

How will a newly formed Scottish Central Bank deal with the debt ridden banks it should probably be assuming regulatory responsibility for:
Lloyds - TSB and Bank of Scotland
Royal Bank of Scotland
If they then don't produce their own currency what credit rating will they get without the ability to devalue or print their own money?

Scotland's Credit Rating and
Central Bank have both been covered quite well in a mythbusting article on another website.;)
Amongst plenty of other myths! Dip in and enjoy.

movilogo

The bad (or good depending on how you see it) Scottish people won't actually vote for independence.

So I guess we'll still remain part of EU :mad:

IveSeenTheLight

Generali wrote: »

Indeed so. I would guess that there'd be limos stuck out on the Highlands to this day with various Under-Secretaries and Junior-Aides Deputy Assistants living off beer nuts and GnTs to this day having been given verbal instructions only..

Pity we didn't think about that.
It would highlight the infrastructure requirement and differences

BobQ

zagubov wrote: »

Scotland will politely ask for a continuation of what it has now and probably won't ask for more. If it's offered a hard time it can take its offer elsewhere and get what it wants at less cost. The EU will have lost a little bit of food security and energy security and landed a little bit more in Putin's pocket. No big deal.

:cool:

The idea of Scotland asking for a continuation of what it has is merely a bargaining position. In reality Scotland will be seeking to join clubs and the clubs will grant it membership on the terms they are willing to offer. If it gets tempramental and starts threatening to go elsewhere they may be disapppointed at the reaction.

I am not saying that Scotland has nothing to offer and part of its strength is the established relationships with other parts of the UK ( eg to supply energy or shared logistics). But a few major employers choosing to relocate to the successor UK or elsewhere in the EU might affect this offer.

zagubov

BobQ wrote: »

The idea of Scotland asking for a continuation of what it has is merely a bargaining position. In reality Scotland will be seeking to join clubs and the clubs will grant it membership on the terms they are willing to offer. If it gets tempramental and starts threatening to go elsewhere they may be disapppointed at the reaction.

As is the EU's claim that entry needn't be automatic.
The clubs willl have the alternative of withdrawing their membership offer and Scotland will have the alternative of looking elsewhere, and wouldn't have to look far IMHO.

Scotland doesn't have to be temperamental, or threaten anything (or accept threats either). There's more than one game in town.

I'm struggling to hide my indfference to the EU's charms- but by all means convince me, I mean what would it really get that's so good it's worth the potential eventual loss of sovereignty that might ensue?

Generali

chucknorris wrote: »

LOL I wonder if it was a joke? If not it should be done as one.

I take it that you mean cycling on the A25 (Which I do know from your previous posts that you are into cycling). I tend to do faster shorter trips on a heavier bike, i.e. just to Epsom and back on my mountain bike (its not too bad actually at only 13.5kg) its a reasonable workout for me at just over an hour. I am thinking of getting a road bike but keep thinking what's the point as it will take longer to get the same calories burned.

A road bike can be more fun to ride on the road so it depends whether riding for you is a chore or done for fun. The other thing to remember is that you tend to ride a road bike more quickly so the number of calories burned should be about constant anyway. If you do decide to get a road bike, the trick is to make sure that the geometry and size are right for you.

I've ridden the A25 quite extensively between Guildford and Sevenoaks but especially around the Shere/Gomshall area. I used to do a lot of training rides up into the hills around there.

Generali

zagubov wrote: »

As is the EU's claim that entry needn't be automatic.
The clubs willl have the alternative of withdrawing their membership offer and Scotland will have the alternative of looking elsewhere, and wouldn't have to look far IMHO.

Scotland doesn't have to be temperamental, or threaten anything (or accept threats either). There's more than one game in town.

I'm struggling to hide my indfference to the EU's charms- but by all means convince me, I mean what would it really get that's so good it's worth the potential eventual loss of sovereignty that might ensue?

Free trade is the benefit. It's amazing the economic benefits that accrue to free trade, both for importers and exporters.

zagubov

zagubov wrote: »

I'm struggling to hide my indfference to the EU's charms- but by all means convince me, I mean what would it really get that's so good it's worth the potential eventual loss of sovereignty that might ensue?

Generali wrote: »

Free trade is the benefit. It's amazing the economic benefits that accrue to free trade, both for importers and exporters.

I agree but what's the unique asset the EU provides that say EFTA or the EEA don't (with far fewer snags and lower cost).