Not 'doing' Santa

shegirl

broace wrote: »

Well you need to recall that Santas never had any child protection checks, if they do now. Also someone dressing up as Santa is completely different to a nursery assistant or anyone qualified to look after children.

As for your question about the threat posed, well firstly it encourages negligence of your childs comfort and then safety as abuse can happen within seconds.

Really? People who are qualified to care for children could never be dodgy? I take it you never watch the news?

There is more chance of a child being harmed by anyone else they are left alone with than being harmed while spending a few seconds on Santas lap in the presence of their parents

skintchick

Please let's not derail the thread by going off on a paed.ophilia tangent.

Person_one

Of all the arguments against letting children have a harmless belief in Father Christmas, I never thought for a minute that 'he might be a pedo' would be one of them.

The News of the World has a lot to answer for.

If you don't like the idea of visiting Santa in a grotto, you can still have him bring presents to the house.

Here's a video of some children who've been dealt a crap hand in life visiting Father Christmas and his workshop in Lapland. If anyone can watch that and tell me they should be denied the experience then I give up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmQyZ5OG_qM

shegirl

skintchick wrote: »

Please let's not derail the thread by going off on a paed.ophilia tangent.

Bit late for that after somebody came out with the comment about 'parents should be protecting their children' with regard to Santa

thatgirlsam

Santa is a peedo? The kids will be gutted when I tell them :-(

Welshwoofs

Presumably it was the parents who'd said that Santa was absolutely cast-iron fact who were the parents who got upset recently that Lidl was selling Reindeer steaks? Apparently it 'spoilt the spirit of Christmas' (according to the paper it was reported in.)

balletshoes

Welshwoofs wrote: »

Presumably it was the parents who'd said that Santa was absolutely cast-iron fact who were the parents who got upset recently that Lidl was selling Reindeer steaks? Apparently it 'spoilt the spirit of Christmas' (according to the paper it was reported in.)

no, that was an idiotic newspaper telling an idiotic non-story

quinechinoise

Bitsy_Beans wrote: »

Sorry stupid ipad decided to autocorrect :mad: I meant Christmas songs not Christian now amended.

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

I'm confused by this, now!
"When Santa got Stuck up the Chimney" isn't a carol. Neither is "Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer", and the like.

Sorry, I think I'm confused too. I'm no longer sure what the original post said as the bit I quoted isn't what I recall reading. I was trying to differentiate between Christmas and Christian: Rudolf/Santa songs being Christmas and anything mentioning God being Christian. You're correct: a song isn't necessarily a carol/hymn but a carol/hymn is a song.

I was just thinking about the "festive spirit" of being lectured at the Kirk of St Nicholas, not long before Christmas, about the "evils" of singing non-religious Christmas songs! It was a long time ago and the good reverend was easily about 4 generations out of touch with us kids. I suppose the confusion is what I get for parroting an old sermon that I didn't pay much attention to in the first place!

thatgirlsam

Welshwoofs wrote: »

Presumably it was the parents who'd said that Santa was absolutely cast-iron fact who were the parents who got upset recently that Lidl was selling Reindeer steaks? Apparently it 'spoilt the spirit of Christmas' (according to the paper it was reported in.)

Have you been beleiving stories in the Daily Mail again... tut

:rotfl:

Peater

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I find it difficult to believe that kids of Secondary School age still believe in Father Christmas. No wonder they are traumatised once they realise it is all fiction. It must have been drummed into them really hard.

I don't think it was ever drummed into me, i just had no reason to question it in my mind as my parents would never lie to me, would they?;)

My sister infact caught Father (my father, not St.Nic) in the act of depositing our stockings at the end of our beds when we were pretty young and worked it out then. Out of kindless/cruelty to me (take your pick) she never let on that she knew the game was up.