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Should Cameron Bottle The TV Election Debates 2015? Clegg & Miliband Seem Up For It
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The Millibands are sons of an upper middle class so-called Marxist university don who used to serve champagne to his students.
Anyone still want to talk about "posh boys" ?No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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Its not where you are from ...its what you stand for! Tony Ben was a Lord but he is sound as well! Its about values! What you see as important in life etc. The Posh boys tag sticks on the present lot because of what they believe and stand for!GeorgeHowell wrote: »The Millibands are sons of an upper middle class so-called Marxist university don who used to serve champagne to his students.
Anyone still want to talk about "posh boys" ?0 -
DecentLivingWage wrote: »Update : its now in the Express, with a bit more detail
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/371781/David-Cameron-defies-Nigel-Farage-TV-plea
The debates are merely cheap TV to fill air time and lure some advertising. In their self they are dire.
It would be interesting toe see Cameron and Farage toe to toe. I have a feeling that Farage would win the battle, in open freestyle combat, but doubt he is capable of winning the war."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »Sorry- my post was for DecentLivingWage who appears to think that Ed Milliband is some sort of hero of the working man, who's going to personally usher in a new golden age, despite being a posh boy with a multi-million pound house who's never had a real job- just like the other leaders.
I agree that Cameron is often poor at PMQ, and is least likely to benefit from an election debate. Clegg did well last time because he had least to lose, and came across as affable and reasonable. A 2015 debate isn't an open goal for Milliband; he has a personality problem due to being a strange mix of a charmless geek with a ruthless streak capable of stabbing his brother in the back. We are not living in a great age of politicians.
Forget Milliband, Farage, Clegg, I think I'd pay good money to see Alex Salmond facing Cameron in a debate.
I think Alex would deal with David like a full stop deals with a sentence.;)There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker0 -
Forget Milliband, Farage, Clegg, I think I'd pay good money to see Alex Salmond facing Cameron in a debate.
I think Alex would deal with David like a full stop deals with a sentence.;)
If it resulted in more Scots voting themselves into independence I'd like to see it too.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »The debates are merely cheap TV to fill air time and lure some advertising. In their self they are dire.
It would be interesting toe see Cameron and Farage toe to toe. I have a feeling that Farage would win the battle, in open freestyle combat, but doubt he is capable of winning the war.
Agreed - there is something about Farage that people like, a direct style and straight delivery - plus many would like to see cameron trounced with a few home truths from him.0 -
DecentLivingWage wrote: »Agreed - there is something about Farage that people like, a direct style and straight delivery - plus many would like to see cameron trounced with a few home truths from him.
I think many people will want to see these debates for many different reasons.
I would like to see how Clegg attempts to defend himself. Last time he made a lot of the fact he and his party were not like the others, they stuck to their principles and so on. I think he will have a great problem trying to maintain such an argument.
In fact Clegg has been very quiet in recent weeks, so maybe he is sorting out his next job?Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »The debates are merely cheap TV to fill air time and lure some advertising. In their self they are dire.
It would be interesting toe see Cameron and Farage toe to toe. I have a feeling that Farage would win the battle, in open freestyle combat, but doubt he is capable of winning the war.
Could David Cameron going a little too far with his latest statement?
...David Cameron has dismissed calls for UKIP leader Nigel Farage to be allowed to take part in the leaders' debates at the next general election, due in 2015.
...But the PM has previously described the eurosceptic party as containing "loonies and closet racists".0 -
Could David Cameron going a little too far with his latest statement?
...David Cameron has dismissed calls for UKIP leader Nigel Farage to be allowed to take part in the leaders' debates at the next general election, due in 2015.
...But the PM has previously described the eurosceptic party as containing "loonies and closet racists".
Bonkers,loonies,mad are all dangerously un politically correct terms nowadays and are a direct offence and insult to mental health patients (as well as being dated slang, old fashioned and reminiscent of the cons being stuck in a seventies groove)
Yes, one of these days cameron will lose his rag big time and make an unacceptable remark - if its during the tv debate, we millions will witness it! No wonder he's worried.
No, i domnt think will put up much a fight this time either - he seems preoccupied with huge positions at EU commissions etc.0 -
Forget Milliband, Farage, Clegg, I think I'd pay good money to see Alex Salmond facing Cameron in a debate.
I think Alex would deal with David like a full stop deals with a sentence.;)
With Alex Salmond he is a great debator that comes over as a more natural person compared to David Cameron who, without the help of his spin doctors, or whoever writes his notes breaks down under debate and can become totally lost to give an answer that does not contain to some degree of arrogance.
MP Dorries summed up Cameron and Osborne as having........ "no passion to want to understand the lives of others"0
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