Fear of JSA being stopped.

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Rainlight wrote: »

Sorry Paul but I've heard the "I pay tax why should you get free money" type of reasoning before it's pathetic and stupid, some people deserve the help some really don't and I know when people do not and when they do.

I've seen my adviser again on Wednesday and tried again explaining why I couldn't go, he phoned the interviewers up and asked if they could rearrange a date while he was looking at me in the eye saying it I said "Can you arrange it anytime friday please" and he just came out with to the person "9:30am right no problem thank you" i suggested Friday because my back payments were finally meant to arrive when I first made my claim and I'd finally have enough money to go.

I left and Yesterday I had to borrow £5 from my grandfather that's already in debt with the funeral costs because my grandmothers life insurance still hasn't come through for him, I felt sick, I waited at the bus stop from 7:40am till 8:20am just to find out the bus isn't in service.

Went to Citizens Advice Bureau explaining the situation and they even confirmed and have on file it was actually unreasonable to expect me to go when I was in middle of being paid incorrect amounts of JSA which was £30.40 previously mentioned elsewhere in the thread.

The adviser at CAB said I can complain about my adviser at the JCP seeing as he has been rude to me by chewing gum constantly smirking all time plus threatening 3 year sanction for first time when it's actually 4 weeks for a first time, and let's be honest if you went to an interview and the employer was chewing gum in a very sarcastic and unnecessary way and even just simply chewing, is that not totally disrespectful and wouldn't you walk away?

I seen my adviser again today, he made me feel real uncomfortable was still chewing gum and smirking away at me which shows a total lack of care for his job, I filled out the necssary form for not going to interview, I tried explaining to him that I've done more than enough, he tried saying that even though the bus I waited initially for wasn't in service that I should have gone late on a different bus that day and "just apologised".

Now be honest people, if you apply to a job and turn up late to the interview what's really the chance of the company taking you on? It would be impossible.

I've also been made to fill out more forms for 2 places I didn't apply for on the Universal Jobmatch site, my reason was because the companies were listed as "Company Confidential" and I've researched online and found while not all companies doing that are scams, but that a lot of them are scams to gain your details like CV info and Passport information.
Neither of the 2 listings had any kind of location, nothing about the hours of work, nothing about the company history, and obviously no company name, so to actually make my benefit to come into question about those 2 jobs is ridiculous, I even asked if he could help me find the information required for me to apply and he ignored me and made me do those forms you fill in for why you haven't applied for things.

I tried speaking to the supervisor but she was worse than my advisor, and I believe she didn't like it because I was making a complaint about someone that works there either.
I also know she didn't like it because I called the security of Universal Jobmatch in question due to security risks and also that giving the JCP access to my account is not mandatory like my adviser threatened, and I even had links written down on paper of proof that also includes peoples statements and pictures concerning the security risks of Universal Jobmatch and neither would take a look at it.

I really don't know what to do, I feel I'm being victimised because I'm young and they automatically assume that I'm just another dosser, I have voice recordings of both my adviser and the supervisor As proof on how I was treated and hopefully when CAB open again on 27th I can take them in and they'll help me take action against JCP, it's about time someone actually stood up to them, how people can live being on JSA I don't know, it's a nightmare and people are aware at my current mental state of what it's done to me.

Soon As I got out I actually found a young mguy roughly same age as me just had his benefit stopped and the JCP wouldn't even tell him where a homeless shelter was because he told me he was not to return home today by his family if it wasn't sorted out, so I walked him to a shelter that was only about 8 minutes walk away and I was disgusted the JCP couldn't even tell him where that was.

To be honest the JCP shouldn't even exist, almost all advisers are power hungry, they send you out to jobs well out of your travel area. They make some feel so sick an horrible that they attempt suicide while the lazy cheaters get away with things.

Damn right if it's possible I'm taking action against them and any compensation I get from it is going directly to homeless shelters in my area and some to the CAB.

I once turned up half an hour late to an interview. I got the job.

Think you need to focus a bit less on all the reasons why you can't go to interviews and make a bit more of an effort. All you seem to be making is one excuse after another. You are exactly the kind of person sanctions were set up for. If you were that afraid of being sanctioned you wouldn't be going to such extreme lengths to get one put on you. Take some responsibility and stop blaming everyone else for your lack of committment.

Mara69

thegirlintheattic wrote: »

The OP seems to be fishing for people to tell them it's ok not to go to the interview.

Or give him money.

I have never, in all my life, read such a crock of sh1te as what the OP has posted. Really. All that crap about feeding his family and doing his best. Yet there are little hints about warehouse jobs (I've heard about this sort of job..). Has absolutely no one to borrow from, no one with a bus pass he could borrow, absolutely nothing to pawn or sell. I bet a fiver that if someone offered to lend/give him a fiver form here, he'd have their hand off.

Yeah, right.

[Deleted User]

OP - Unbelievable!

It seems the whole world is against you. Excuses and more excuses.

So far its been lack of money, then bus fair, then bus didnt turn, now its the job centre people. Is anything ever your fault?

Liked the comment 'assume I'm just another dosser'.

Sorry to be harsh but the comments on this forum have displayed just that. I expect thats exactly what the JobCentre are thinking. Remember they've seen this millions of times before.

To be honest, I think there is a decent employee in there somewhere if you change your attitude. At the moment, its all excuses. But despite this I really do hope you manage to get on.

In the meantime, it might do you good to lose your benefits - might make you realise its a hard world out there and not everything is easy come easy go.

princessdon

Hm - Normally the cost of the funeral doesn't need to be paid immediately especially if there is an insurance policy.

Isn't there a £2k bereavement benefit that pays out quickly too and a large run on of carers payments?

I had a lot of sympathy given that they should not have expected you fund without payment but that is dwindling now and talks of complaints and compensation, shows you in a new light. Scams to get your CV details? Mine is open to world on loads of different sites to maximise job potential, why is it a scam to get your CV details?

Based on the feeling they may be a scam to get your CV you didn't apply for another 2 jobs.

So a serious question - what do you expect from JC+ and your advisor. Are you wanting them to leave you alone and be able to look for your own job only, because that isn't going to happen so you need to find your own job quickly, then it's all on your terms.

dktreesea

Why is it that people who get benefits don't expect them to be hugely conditional on a whole heap of things, including whatever the "pesky" job centre/DWP/council/HMRC (or whoever is administering a particular benefit on the day) can legally ask you to do?

Inconvenient, sometimes expensive things - likely having to travel for interviews with bogus jobs on offer just so the JSA person can "meet" their targets - and certainly unfair things, like expecting someone who only has £65 a week to live on to stump up for a £5 bus fare return ahead of being reimbursed for it.

It's not a secure, reliable income, nor is it meant to be. It can be stopped at any time, on any whim or pretext the jsa bods can come up with, so it's a good idea, even if you subsequently appeal and get it sorted out, to have a little bit of rainy day money, and maybe a couple of weeks worth of cheap, tinned food, e.g. baked beans, put by, just in case your money is stopped.

OP, you said initiially you couldn't borrow the bus fare from your family, but later on talk off borrowing £5 from your grandfather. It seems to me you could have borrowed the bus fare, then taken the ticket into the job centre and got a refund, reimbursing your family member, at the time you needed to do that.

My advice? Plan on living off half your JSA per week and putting the rest aside for the inevitable hassles and possible sanctions you are going to get from JSA staff.

pebbles88

Op

Use all the energy & determination you've focused towards the 'problems & wrong doings' from the jcp towards your job search or job plan.

Once you get a job, you won't have to answer to jcp.

Good luck

[Deleted User]

OP - I might be a bit too blunt for your liking but surely you will have noticed that everyone else in this thread pretty much thinks the same?

You really need to get out, stop worrying about how hard done by you are and get yourself a job!

pipkin71

Rainlight wrote: »

I actually look forward to getting work that way I can save up money for a solid year so I can study abroad to study Japanese.

As an aside, have a look at local colleges to see if any are offering Japanese courses. My children have been studying this for a while as private students but their tutor also teaches in college.

That way, you don't have to wait until you go abroad and the course may be free whilst you are on JSA