MSE News: Benefits to rise by less than inflation: full breakdown

clemmatis

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

Those people who want to work, will work. Lots of disabled people choose to work.

Those who could work but would rather not, won't work.

It's about choices: but work is the only way out of poverty.

TBH, I would be bored if I didn't work.

You seem to have forgotten the people who can't work, i.e,, cannot do anything like a full-time job unless an employer makes a fair number of accommodations and/or provides special support.

And you also seem to have forgotten that there are far far fewer jobs available than there are even people on JSA,

schrodie

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

Those people who want to work, will work. Lots of disabled people choose to work.

Those who could work but would rather not do anything, won't work.

It's about choices: but work is the only way out of poverty.

TBH, I would be bored if I didn't work. I would just end up posting on the forums all the time.

Work may be the only way out of poverty however despite what the daily mail has lead you to believe there are many people for whom work isn't an option and one day you may be one of them as sickness and disability can strike anyone anytime!

Horseunderwater

If on ESA and in support group - I think that the current £34.05 bit and the EDP part which is either £14.80 (or £21.30 if a couple IR) may well be 2.2% as is DLA, but the normal part of ESA will be 1% for either the £71/£111.45 part. That was my reading of it all. However as with all things gov't I will wait for my letter to arrive, which I expect will be sometime in new year.

schrodie

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BurnleyBob

Dunroamin wrote: »

That's a great exaggeration even if you're being pedantic and including the state pension.

There are approximately 24 million households in the UK with 5 million of them claiming WTC/CTC and just over 7 million of them pensioners.

In nobody's book is 12 million a "vast majority" of 24 million.

There's nothing pedantic about the State Pension being a benefit because that's exactly what it is. No ifs, buts or maybes about it.

As for your other point, between 80% and 90% of UK households are in receipt of one benefit or more. That equals a vast majority in my book.

starrystarry

BurnleyBob wrote: »

As for your other point, between 80% and 90% of UK households are in receipt of one benefit or more. That equals a vast majority in my book.

Can you point us to a source for this figure?

BurnleyBob

http://statistics.dwp.gov.uk/asd/asd1/adhoc_analysis/2012/IM1722_adhoc.pdf

starrystarry

BurnleyBob wrote: »

http://statistics.dwp.gov.uk/asd/asd1/adhoc_analysis/2012/IM1722_adhoc.pdf

Unless I'm missing something that says 32% of benefit units (i.e. households) were in receipt of at least one income related benefit or tax credit in 2010/11.

BurnleyBob

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

If we have to pay higher interest rates on the massive debts the last government ran up, there will have to be deeper cuts just to pay the interest only part of those debts.

By Osborne's own admission, the current coalition government will have landed the nation with more debt in five years (2015) than Labour accrued in the 13 years prior. Actually, by the next General Election scheduled for May 2015, the coalition would have accumulated more debt than all the previous governments in the UK's entire history combined. These figures are of course heavily skewed through endless inflation. The country's debt to GDP ratio is actually quite small combined to other periods in the past century thanks to borrowing to fund two World Wars.

Today the national debt stands at £1,100 billion. It was £700 and something billion in May 2010.

As you intimated, funding the debt rather than the debt itself is the problem.

BurnleyBob

starrystarry wrote: »

Unless I'm missing something that says 32% of benefit units (i.e. households) were in receipt of at least one income related benefit or tax credit in 2010/11.

The household figure is, I believe, 85% or 86%. As you may know, there are many benefits that are not income related, Child Benefit being one.