MSE News: Benefits to rise by less than inflation: full breakdown

[Deleted User]

schrodie wrote: »

According to which definition of poverty?

IMHO of course. What else is needed?

clemmatis

In addition to other price rises the 1% rise won't meet, comes the council tax benefit cut. In Wales, that will be a direct cut.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-20642045

Dunroamin

[quote=[Deleted User];57838883]I agree. If you've got no job but a place to live, heating, food and clothes you arent experiencing poverty.

Unfortunately, not always the case for some old people who pay tax all their life and then dont have enough pension to pay for heating.

Unlike some people on benefits who've never worked a day in their life and moan if they cant afford the latest ipad......[/QUOTE]

I don't disagree with much of what you're written but you're wrong about pensioners. Whether they've worked all their lives or never done a stroke, a single pensioner will receive £142 pw pension credit with full rent and council tax paid as well as being allowed to keep a substantial amount of capital.

schrodie

[quote=[Deleted User];57838883]I agree. If you've got no job but a place to live, heating, food and clothes you arent experiencing poverty.

Unfortunately, not always the case for some old people who pay tax all their life and then dont have enough pension to pay for heating.

Unlike some people on benefits who've never worked a day in their life and moan if they cant afford the latest ipad......[/QUOTE]

schrodie wrote: »

According to which definition of poverty?

[quote=[Deleted User];57856857]IMHO of course. What else is needed?[/QUOTE]


From you....as little as possible given the above drivel.

[Deleted User]

schrodie wrote: »

From you....as little as possible given the above drivel.

So don't agree with my opinion so resort to being rude. Classy.

schrodie

[quote=[Deleted User];57862331]So don't agree with my opinion.[/QUOTE]

Thankfully very few other than the simple-minded would agree with your opinion on the matter of poverty and its meaning!

wouldbeqaulitymoneysaver

All I can say is 'Thank God for proper Academic Debates and Proper Academic Books [which any clever crafty Tom !!!!!! or Harriet] can avail themselves if they are a horned sasy individual like myself.
Speaking as one on long term benefits I fear for my future and am terrified at what the Condems are planning under the likes of Grayling and IDS/Mark Koban.

Saetana

[quote=[Deleted User];57834495]Best idea ever. IMHO they should have frozen benefits entirely.

Plenty of people out there who WORK for a living and haven't had a payrise for years. If you don't like the benefits you get, try something else like a JOB.

About time in this country that we realised that benefits were there as a safety net to keep you alive until you get a job and are not a lifestyle option.

Benefits should be there to pay for basics like housing, heating, food, clothing and thats it. Booze, fags, tattoos, ipads, TVs are for those who work.

(Although I will add I'm glad that disability benefit is unaffected). Pity a lot of those are fraudulent claims though.[/QUOTE]
The DWP's own figures state the number of fraudulent claims for 2011 was 0.5%, the rate of DWP overpayments due to their errors was 0.8! Come back when you know what you are talking about - many people on benefits are UNABLE to work and fraud is nowhere near as widespread as the media would have you believe.