gap between classing dates and interview.

seven-day-weekend

Phil, I've just had a thought .

I'm not sure what your disability is or how extensive, but when I worked for a Local Authority, they had a scheme whereby people with disabilities could be given a placement for (I think) nine months to help them get the required skills. These placements were paid the correct rate for the job and there was always a chance that you would be able to get another job whilst on the placement.

Why don't you give your Local Authority a ring?

seven-day-weekend

Also Phil, I need to say this: my son has been unemployed for over three years (for various reasons including AS) although he has worked in the past. He has now got a chance for a job at Matalan.

Do I think any less of him for this? Of course not, I want to help him and I will be as proud as punch if he gets the job. I will still love and support him whatever happens.

I'm sure your parents feel like this too. If they don't, then whatever you do you will never please them (my husband found this out) and therefore stop trying and do what is best for YOU.

seven-day-weekend

Me again Phil, just wanted to add that I have a degree and thirty years of office/admin experience and I never even got an interview for a job with a University that I applied for! They have loads of suitable applicants and obviously just didn't choose my application to take further. So don't think it's the end of the world that you haven't got an interview. Just keep trying, but chose other places too to apply for.

studentphil

I know universities get loads of applications and applying there does me no favours, but I can not get the idea out of my heed that I must must work there for some reason.

There are lots of unpaid jobs I could get. There is the RNIB and a disabled rights charity in my area that are always after people to do work for them.
I did work at a dog rescue charity at weekends, I could always do more of that.

However, I do require an income as you can not live on nothing.

TOBRUK

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Phil, I've just had a thought .

I'm not sure what your disability is or how extensive, but when I worked for a Local Authority, they had a scheme whereby people with disabilities could be given a placement for (I think) nine months to help them get the required skills. These placements were paid the correct rate for the job and there was always a chance that you would be able to get another job whilst on the placement.

Why don't you give your Local Authority a ring?

I have on more than one occassion told phil about NEW DEAL for disabled and not once has he acknowledged it. They find a placement to fit the requirements of the person and supports them for a year with a view to full time employment. He would be able to try out a job and could if he didn't like it go and try another, but he doesn't want to know doesn't want to try anything! It would be a sure thing for him to get experience he needs e.g. if he wants to work in an office and gain the experience they would find a placement in an office!

When I worked at the BBC there were many 'disabled' working in the offices, it is absolute rubbish for him to say that he won't be considered for an office job. He just needs to gain the skills he needs for that job and work on his weaknesses, but he thinks that once he has got a degree that he has completed all his learning and someone should give him a dream job for gaining that degree! Once he is in work no one cares what degree he has! Ofcourse, he knows all about the working world although he has never had a job! He applies for one job but as he doesn't get an interview there is something wrong!!

I know people without degrees who have worked up to have top jobs - they learnt on the job, starting at the bottom and working up. Phil wants to start at the top - he is disillusional. I know one chap who was at uni the same time as me who had an excellent degree - he had a first, while he was looking and applying for jobs he took a temporary job on the dustbins because he needed work to survive, the thing is he found he loved it and stayed!

Let's face it phil is phil and will only go on about how hard done by he is in the end. Whatever someone suggests here he will find a fault ... a job will be beneath him because he is worthy of better, he won't just get any job because he only wants something that interests him - he has the luxury of picking and chosing. If he doesn't like it he won't do it! The majority will find a job, any job because they need to pay bills and to survive - phil doesn't have to pay bills, he isn't in the position of having to work to survive!!

Catseyez

SP...I'm beginning to wonder whether you are deliberately applying for jobs that you know will not hire you as some sort of avoidance tactic for going out into the real world.

If you genuinely wanted to work after uni, I think that you would be applying and looking at a variety of jobs. Instead you apply for jobs which ask for essential skills that you KNOW you don't have. So you don't get asked for an interview....great, that means you can come back on MSE and spend hours wasting your time again and again.

My guess is that you like the idea of a university because it makes you feel 'safe'. Any other sort of job at any other sort of organisation, is just terrifying for you.

studentphil

TOBRUK wrote: »

I have on more than one occassion told phil about NEW DEAL for disabled and not once has he acknowledged it. They find a placement to fit the requirements of the person and supports them for a year with a view to full time employment. He would be able to try out a job and could if he didn't like it go and try another, but he doesn't want to know doesn't want to try anything! It would be a sure thing for him to get experience he needs e.g. if he wants to work in an office and gain the experience they would find a placement in an office!

When I worked at the BBC there were many 'disabled' working in the offices, it is absolute rubbish for him to say that he won't be considered for an office job. He just needs to gain the skills he needs for that job and work on his weaknesses, but he thinks that once he has got a degree that he has completed all his learning and someone should give him a dream job for gaining that degree! Once he is in work no one cares what degree he has! Ofcourse, he knows all about the working world although he has never had a job! He applies for one job but as he doesn't get an interview there is something wrong!!

I know people without degrees who have worked up to have top jobs - they learnt on the job, starting at the bottom and working up. Phil wants to start at the top - he is disillusional. I know one chap who was at uni the same time as me who had an excellent degree - he had a first, while he was looking and applying for jobs he took a temporary job on the dustbins because he needed work to survive, the thing is he found he loved it and stayed!

Let's face it phil is phil and will only go on about how hard done by he is in the end. Whatever someone suggests here he will find a fault ... a job will be beneath him because he is worthy of better, he won't just get any job because he only wants something that interests him - he has the luxury of picking and chosing. If he doesn't like it he won't do it! The majority will find a job, any job because they need to pay bills and to survive - phil doesn't have to pay bills, he isn't in the position of having to work to survive!!

I really do not expect to start at the top and I have applied for jobs earning as little as 10k a year.

It is not that I have not aknowledged things like the New Deal for disabled people. I do feel a bit of shame in having to cap in hand for help to find a job due to my disability. I am an independant person and I would like to stay that way. I have applied for 6 jobs and heard nothing - not just one.

I do require an income to survive as I do not have magic money to live on.

The completely logical reason why I want to work at university is that I can get there direct on one bus is a main motive. There is no point me getting a job that I can not get to afterall. University does feel safe and known which does help too.

studentphil

Catseyez wrote: »

SP...I'm beginning to wonder whether you are deliberately applying for jobs that you know will not hire you as some sort of avoidance tactic for going out into the real world.

If you genuinely wanted to work after uni, I think that you would be applying and looking at a variety of jobs. Instead you apply for jobs which ask for essential skills that you KNOW you don't have. So you don't get asked for an interview....great, that means you can come back on MSE and spend hours wasting your time again and again.

My guess is that you like the idea of a university because it makes you feel 'safe'. Any other sort of job at any other sort of organisation, is just terrifying for you.

I applied for these office jobs because I thought I had the skills to the job even though no office experience, is that so stupid? I took a long shot and hoped for the best.

University is safe, I do know it, I can get here, all that is true.

Need_More_Money_2

studentphil wrote: »

The completely logical reason why I want to work at university is that I can get there direct on one bus is a main motive. There is no point me getting a job that I can not get to afterall. University does feel safe and known which does help too.

That's an extremely weak reason! Is this Leeds University we are talking about? It's fairly close to the city centre, so if you can get there by bus there must be loads of places close by you could work.
I don't think many graduates choose their place of work based on the bus route :rolleyes: . For my first graduate job, I moved countries!

susy_2

Phil, what are your disabilities?