Housing Benefit under occupancy Help

princessdon

sunnyone wrote: »

people who need a wheelchair indoors need much more houseing help than a blind person, a blind person can learn their space around any home where as wheelchair user cant unless they can actully move around in thier own home.

People in wheelchairs fulltime need lots of space to move around, peopel with diffrent disabilities need diffrent adjustments

That's 1 reason my GM waited 9 years. She needed lower benches to make meals, wider doors and mobility for her wheelchair, a walk in wet room (as opposed to bath/shower), lower access to things like sockets, light fittings and many others that she cannot reach from her chair.

She also needed a 2nd room due to equipment - and if honest some wants like her computer and sewing machine.

There are few properties that have lowered benches so they can cook/make a sarnie and with lights they can turn off etc.

princessdon

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

On that point, I agree. I understand your GM moved into accommodation for the elderly. Those over working age are exempt.



I guess it's a matter of perception. To my mind, when the bigger picture is viewed, we could all benefit from this modest change.

I agree with the overall, doesn't mean I don't have degrees of sympathy for the ones affected.

And no she didn't move into elderly accomodation. she moved to disabled living (assisted living), where they have their own flat that is adapted for disabilities.

For 9 years I got up at 5.30 and went to her house to get her out of bed, dress, bathe and get down stairs before taking myself to work and my children to school as her home wasn't suitable.

Shortage of SH for her need, nothing more or less, hence the wait.

She'd pay bedroom tax X 10 to have her independance back, I smile every day I see her prepare her own lunch and bathe herself.

Somethings you can never put a price on ..

Yet one reason for the wait she had was then when "family members died" the partner stayed on, despite not being in a wheelchair as was their home.

Morlock

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

I refer you to #431

That post proves nothing, it just advertises two-bedroom properties as "Suitable for a single person or couple". The local housing allocation policy will override any advertising sound bites.

Like this, for example:

"An applicant with access to children for less than 50% of the time will normally only be considered eligible for a suitably sized flat, unless a house becomes available for which there is no demand."

Which is a copy & paste from the local housing authority's allocation policy covering the properties which you linked to in post #431.

You would be stupid to think that advertising jargon outweighs local housing policy.

Heycock

Most amazing thing is that this thread hasn't been moved yet! OP Ijwia has long lost interest with noone actually answering his/her question
All contentious posts seem to follow the same pattern. Question gets asked, usually answered within 10 posts...then the same old same old arguing their own pet points ad nauseum (I plead guilty!) until the thread gets kicked into the long grass of the discussion area.
We've done well..pat on the back everyone. Even Morlock with whom I actually agreed earlier on with something. Can't remember what. But it might be because he/she seems to have lost his/her obsession with stats and is now arguing on the same level as the rest of us.

lighting_up_the_chalice

Morlock wrote: »

That post proves nothing, it just advertises two-bedroom properties as "Suitable for a single person or couple". The local housing allocation policy will override any advertising sound bites.

Like this, for example:

"An applicant with access to children for less than 50% of the time will normally only be considered eligible for a suitably sized flat, unless a house becomes available for which there is no demand."

Which is a copy & paste from the local housing authority's allocation policy covering the properties which you linked to in post #431.

You would be stupid to think that advertising jargon outweighs local housing policy.

How does that contradict what I've said?

Morlock

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

How does that contradict what I've said?

See here:

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

You've made a schoolboy error, Morlock. Entitlement is established with the advert, not the allocations policy.

Absolutely barmy.

You are suggesting that if a two-bedroom property is advertised as "Suitable for a single person or couple" on the Compass site, this indicates that allocation policy does not apply, and anyone with entitlement to a one-bedroom property is now free to bid on it, which is not the case.

lighting_up_the_chalice

Morlock wrote: »

See here:



Absolutely barmy.

You are suggesting that if a two-bedroom property is advertised as "Suitable for a single person or couple" on the Compass site, this indicates that allocation policy does not apply, and anyone with entitlement to a one-bedroom property is now free to bid on it, which is not the case.

That's what the allocations policy, as quoted by yourself, says. Unless you can find the bit of the policy that restricts single applicants to 1 bedroom? Find that and I'll appologies unreservedly and herald you as the greatest debater ever. I'll even give a tenner to the charity of your choice. Can't say fairer than that. I don't even expect you to match my wager.

princessdon

My LH does not EVER specify a single bedroom. They are 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 4-5 etc

They always offer a choice.

Heycock

Excuse me butting in here because i haven't had the time to follow the whole thread, are you two talking about a specific authority or national practice?
Allocation rules still vary depending on where you are. Some mirror LHA rules but not all do. Sorry if I've not kept up.

princessdon

Heycock wrote: »

Excuse me butting in here because i haven't had the time to follow the whole thread, are you two talking about a specific authority or national practice?
Allocation rules still vary depending on where you are. Some mirror LHA rules but not all do. Sorry if I've not kept up.

I know jack about national (the other poster may), but MY local LA uses a 2 bed spacing for every bid.

Ie someone entitled to 2 bed can bid on 1 - 3, they allow above r below, I am not 100% sure how the prioritise outside your allocation but do allow bidding. That is why my family member has a 2 bed as a single person.