Housing Benefit under occupancy Help

nannytone_2

i moved to my propertu necause the alternative was a homeless hostel that was 19 mukes away,
i dont think you appreciate how big a deal a visual impairment is!

the local council did becayse they made syre i had somewhere to live!

but im certainly looking at paying the cost of my parents not getting genetic advice before my sonception!

can i sue then do you think?

Dunroamin

Perhaps if, instead of everybody jumping up and down and shouting "not fair", campaigners against the change were to focus on the people who are most unfairly affected (like those on medium and higher rate DLA), there might be more generalised support?

I can see no reason why a single, non disabled person shouldn't downsize (into the private sector if necessary), whereas I can see that those with high care needs will be disproportionately affected.

Morlock

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Is that self defined disability?

No, they are disabilities recognised by the Disability Discrimination Act.

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

In any area with a waiting list, under-occupation is a significant problem. I'm not aware of any area without a waiting lost.

Not necessarily, it depends on the demographic of those on the waiting list. In areas where there is high demand for 3-4 bedroom properties, under-occupancy of two-bedroom properties is not a significant problem.

nannytone_2

its too late for that ... its already been passed.

im only pm ;pe ratr DLA... because for a sensory impairment, you need to be blind and deaf fpr ot tp impact on your life!

my now seceased nother in law got high rate... she was very disabled with emphasemia... but in her mobility scooter... she was far beetter off than i am .... a scooter can make an imobilr prtdon mpno;e ... nothing can compensate for sight

k12479

Morlock wrote: »

...it is a direct tax...

It is a reduction in subsidy.

lighting_up_the_chalice

Morlock wrote: »

No, they are disabilities recognised by the Disability Discrimination Act.



Not necessarily, it depends on the demographic of those on the waiting list. In areas where there is high demand for 3-4 bedroom properties, under-occupancy of two-bedroom properties is not a significant problem.

Perhaps you could identify such an area where demand is so different for 2 types of property with an overlapping entitlement?

Heycock

Well, Morlock...you've got me beat. My 21 years working in and serving the housing estates of one of the most socially deprived areas in the UK and seeing how people live, seeing how the families I served grow and change, seeing who got given the new houses, who got offered the substandard ones, all this first hand experience .... is trumped by your statistics. You win. I'm off to the pub.

Just one final thing...ever read Jean de Florette? A fiction maybe but a salutory lesson to those who believe in the sanctity of statistics. Partly about how an obsessive reliance on the validity and reliability of statistics rather than local experience leads to the ruin of an honest man.
BTW. I studied statistics for 3 years as a major part of my degree so I know that interpretation is 95% of the exercise, but no i don't have the statistics to back that statement up. Enjoy your evening in with the Guardian. I'm off to the pub with the chelsea fans.

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

its too late for that ... its already been passed.

im only pm ;pe ratr DLA... because for a sensory impairment, you need to be blind and deaf fpr ot tp impact on your life!

my now seceased nother in law got high rate... she was very disabled with emphasemia... but in her mobility scooter... she was far beetter off than i am .... a scooter can make an imobilr prtdon mpno;e ... nothing can compensate for sight

Did she live in her scooter?

Morlock

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Tell you what, you pick a town and I'll do the stats.

I choose Bradford.

nannytone_2

people lije me arent just statidtiv or anecdoyes
we are real people that are going to be severly imoacted by the new regulations,

oh i gave £59 a week to feed ntself. diesnt seem to bad as long as nothing breaks down or i dont need new clothes!

im not a statistic ... im a person with a life changing disability that is unfortunately reliant on the state.