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Housing Benefit under occupancy Help

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  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    nixe wrote: »
    a sofa bed dont why i did not think of that before,
    could it because i have arthritis and cant on days even lift
    a cuppa, or that hubby has muscles that work back to front
    and cant even at times hold a pen.
    but here is the good news he will possibly lose his legs
    so will have half a body, they could then up the £14 a week
    to say £19 as a full human is not using the room
    or should he get a discount.
    the room is not spare i am using it.

    If you could explain why you need to sleep separately, people might understand better. My husband is severely disabled and I would hate to have him sleeping in a different room from me.

    Do you both need a lot of disability equipment in your bedrooms, as an example?
  • nixe
    nixe Posts: 167 Forumite
    Dunroamin wrote: »
    If you could explain why you need to sleep separately, people might understand better. My husband is severely disabled and I would hate to have him sleeping in a different room from me.

    Do you both need a lot of disability equipment in your bedrooms, as an example?

    he has a range of problems from restless legs to m/e
    he is always moving around waking up,
    he has a thing that goes under his matress to help him up
    it makes to much noise he is up and down with that machine
    he dont sleep much and gets about 1 hours sleep a night
    he is mostly confined to his room as he is too much pain
    to come down stairs during the day.
    i have lupus amoungst other things i need to rest and sleep at night.
    if we were in the same room we would kill each other,
    it will never work there is a lot of medical problems that i have not put on.
  • sunnyone
    sunnyone Posts: 4,716 Forumite
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    Dunroamin wrote: »
    If you could explain why you need to sleep separately, people might understand better. My husband is severely disabled and I would hate to have him sleeping in a different room from me.

    Do you both need a lot of disability equipment in your bedrooms, as an example?

    We have seperate rooms due to disability, I have a hospital bed and various peieces of equiptment in my room so my husband sleeps across the hall, he also has serious medical problems and we rest more in seperate rooms, we always knew my health would get worse so we bought a house that would adapt to those needs.

    We bought a bigger house because we needed it and we paid extra for the privilage, why should renters not also pay for the privilige of a larger house?
  • krisskross
    krisskross Posts: 7,677 Forumite
    Dunroamin wrote: »
    If you could explain why you need to sleep separately, people might understand better. My husband is severely disabled and I would hate to have him sleeping in a different room from me.

    We also sleep in the same room although we each have our own bed. I get very fretful if I can't hear him breathing and have scared him more than once by looming over him in the night to check his breathing:rotfl:
  • nixe
    nixe Posts: 167 Forumite
    sunnyone wrote: »
    We have seperate rooms due to disability, I have a hospital bed and various peieces of equiptment in my room so my husband sleeps across the hall, he also has serious medical problems and we rest more in seperate rooms, we always knew my health would get worse so we bought a house that would adapt to those needs.

    We bought a bigger house because we needed it and we paid extra for the privilage, why should renters not also pay for the privilige of a larger house?


    we should have bought our home for a pittance
    it would have been paid of years ago,
    at one time morgages use to be cheaper than rent.
    we could have then sold this house made a lovely profit
    and not be 14 a week worse off.
    would i then not care what happens to others
    could then be i am alright jack
    you lot pay an unfair tax.
    never its an injustice in thousands of cases.
  • nixe
    nixe Posts: 167 Forumite
    krisskross wrote: »
    We also sleep in the same room although we each have our own bed. I get very fretful if I can't hear him breathing and have scared him more than once by looming over him in the night to check his breathing:rotfl:

    lol
    hubby said to me if i get to ill and need to go into a care
    home then he would kill me first rather than let me suffer,
    thing is hun i did ask him too :o
    so if he was looming over me i would scream lol.
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    krisskross wrote: »
    We also sleep in the same room although we each have our own bed. I get very fretful if I can't hear him breathing and have scared him more than once by looming over him in the night to check his breathing:rotfl:

    I thought it was just me that did that!

    I have been known to wake himup by putting his pulse oximeter on his finger to see if his sats are OK!
  • mazza111 wrote: »
    As for asking a disabled person to sleep on a sofabed. Clueless! They are meant for occasional use, not every day use.

    What's YOUR solution then? They can't afford to pay for a 2 bed, but claim to need 2 rooms to sleep in. What do YOU think they should do.
    mazza111 wrote: »
    I can't move out the area, I have responsibilities here, like my disabled daughter on one side of the valley and my disabled mother on the other side of the valley. So yes, I will have to pick up the short fall for the benefit of my family. So where will this money come from? That is the big question. Again it's the logics that don't apply. I am in a 2 bedroom property. There are empty properties of the same size in this area. If I moved to another area, and was in the position of claiming HB then they would be paying MORE for me to live in a 1 bed? Does that make sense to you?

    Perhaps you should consider your daughter moving back in with you?
    mazza111 wrote: »
    I think nannytone lives in a place like mine where there is inadequate housing for couples or singles.

    If an area doesn't have what you need, moving may be the only viable option. It's no good living in Birmingham, then complaining that you can't have a sea view.
    mazza111 wrote: »
    Honestly, some people who's disabilities are that bad, their dla is used up on transport for hospital visits and care needs. Not housing needs. Just last week my dd had 5 different appointments. Although I drive her there, if I wasn't around that would be taken up by taxis. Approximately £6 each time if she's at local hospital. If she's at the RI it's a lot more than that. That's not to mention the trips for shopping etc. DLA can easily be eaten up by transport costs, especially if the recipient doesn't drive. She does get a free bus pass, but can't get on the bus... No taxi schemes available in this area.

    Your daughters needs, as outlined above, represent the needs of a small minority of DLA claimants. At the end of the day, budgeting your DLA is down to you.... and we're back to those pesky choices again.
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    edited 22 November 2012 at 6:10PM
    nixe wrote: »
    he has a range of problems from restless legs to m/e
    he is always moving around waking up,
    he has a thing that goes under his matress to help him up
    it makes to much noise he is up and down with that machine
    he dont sleep much and gets about 1 hours sleep a night
    he is mostly confined to his room as he is too much pain
    to come down stairs during the day.
    i have lupus amoungst other things i need to rest and sleep at night.
    if we were in the same room we would kill each other,
    it will never work there is a lot of medical problems that i have not put on.

    Are you sure that your desire for separate rooms is due to disability and not personal problems? It was only a few months ago that you posted this.

    "oh no we re both disabled so both dont work but spend as little time together as possible he is always in his room thank goodness.
    its our anerversary on either the 21 or 22nd or 23rd of this month.
    we have been married about 17 or 18 years cant remember think it was 1995? kids in there widom have booked us a weekend away dreading it, after i said aint the sea beautiful and he said yes then what will we speak about.. emm"


    (Apologies to sunnyone for adding this on to one of her posts by mistake.:o)
  • nixe wrote: »
    a sofa bed dont why i did not think of that before,
    could it because i have arthritis and cant on days even lift
    a cuppa, or that hubby has muscles that work back to front
    and cant even at times hold a pen.
    but here is the good news he will possibly lose his legs
    so will have half a body, they could then up the £14 a week
    to say £19 as a full human is not using the room
    or should he get a discount.
    the room is not spare i am using it.

    It's all well and good you churning out these emotive arguments, but the facts of the matter, as they stand, are that you either pay for the extra room, or move to a smaller property. It really is that simple.

    Sticking your head in the sand and pretending it ain't so is not the most sensible course of action.
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