Housing Benefit under occupancy Help

lighting_up_the_chalice

mazza111 wrote: »

It's not about choices, it's about using the benefit for what it was intended for. Housing doesn't come into those choices. As it is, I will pay any extra she has to pay every week when/if the time comes for her to move into an adapted flat. She's at the top of the list, it will mean her moving another 5 mins (car drive) away from me but the flat would be more suitable. Just because I will pay it, doesn't mean I'm happy about it. Nor would I think it fair.

Of course it's about choices. DLA is paid to compensate for the extra living costs of a disability. You say you cannot afford to live where you are, but cannot move to an area you can afford because of your disabled daughter. So, the extra housing costs you incur are as a direct result of your daughters disability. Precisely what DLA is intended to address!

seven-day-weekend

mazza111 wrote: »

That's the difference 7DW. Necessity and choice....

Probably when you had RLS it was necessity, now it's choice. I'm sure you know it can take a while to get medication right for a whole lot of ailments.

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Yes it is choice now, but just for clarification I would like to say I still have RLS...even with the medication they start getting 'creepy' in the early evening. The medication, which I take at 9 pm, calms them down and enables me to sleep. Then they will start when I wake up in the morning, if I stay in bed, so I am usually up early. The medication has not cured it, just enables me to manage it so that I can sleep.

mazza111

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Well, yes. That's just a practical reality. If you can't afford to live in one area, you (like everyone else) will have to move to an area you CAN afford.

Well I can afford to in all honesty. But not everyone would be in that position.

Again, my responsibilities are to my dd down the road, and my OM over the valley, both disabled, both need my help for one reason or another. Both of them are in 1 bedroom properties atm. One sheltered housing, one social housing. Should the dd get her adapted flat (morbidly waiting for someone to die) she will have to find rent money (yes bank of mum again). Even though she needs some care through the night, she doesn't get MRC. So when the time comes and my ds moves out. I would have to move out of my 2 bed, to a different area, then move my dd and my mother into that area so I would be able to care for them? Seriously? When my 2 bedroom costs less than a 1 bed private let? When there is no queue in this area for 2 bed places? Are you sure on that? Would you really be happy for me to cost the government more money?

Hey, don't get me wrong, if there was a one bed flat that was suitable for me, I'd be happy to downsize, but I won't leave my disabled family to fend for themselves.

princessdon

mazza111 wrote: »

Irrelevant on the why's. But let's pick holes in people's posts.

My son is having to sleep on dd's sofa tonight as she's had another fall and may need help through the night. Something that I couldn't do due to my own health problems. But it sure makes me feel guilty that I'm asking a 16 yr old to do it for me. Whereas if she had an extra bed or I had kept my extra bed and not done what I believe in, I could have been there for her. Thankfully I'm just up the road so if he needs help he can call. Which again wouldn't be viable given other people's suggestions that I move from the area when the time comes for me to downsize again.

I do hope the government looks at the downsides of these plans, especially where the sick and disabled are concerned. But then they've not cared so far, don't see them changing now.

I feel what you see on this forum is the I can, why can't you approach. I'm really happy that some people can share a room with their partners/husbands. It's not always viable, especially if there's noisy equipment involved. Or a restless sleeper. Or... the list could be endless. My mum and dad spend their last 5 years together in separate rooms, so there was a chance that at least one of them had a sleep. And you wouldn't have found a more loving relationship, he brought her breakfast in bed every morning for 50 years. And had a wee cuddle every night before they went to their rooms at night.

However, you and your daughter could move in together in a 3 bedroom, leaving your 2 and their 1 bed free. Help the shortages, you are there when she needs you. Is this not an option?

lighting_up_the_chalice

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Yes it is choice now, but just for clarification I would like to say I still have RLS...even with the medication they start getting 'creepy' in the early evening. The medication, which I take at 9 pm, calms them down and enables me to sleep. Then they will start when I wake up in the morning, if I stay in bed, so I am usually up early. The medication has not cured it, just enables me to manage it so that I can sleep.

Perhaps 2 single beds would be a more practical answering than another bedroom?

seven-day-weekend

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Perhaps 2 single beds would be a more practical answering than another bedroom?

This is what did when we live in Spain, where our bedroom was huge. When we came back to the UK we did think of having a double bed for one room and single beds for the other, but in the end had two doubles.

So now we can sleep in one, or the other, or both (and we have a sofa bed too ).

But on the whole we prefer the separate rooms for the reasons I have mentioned above.

lighting_up_the_chalice

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

This is what did when we live in Spain, where our bedroom was huge. When we came back to the UK we did think of having a double bed for one room and single beds for the other, but in the end had two doubles.

So now we can sleep in one, or the other, or both (and we have a sofa bed too ).

But on the whole we prefer the separate rooms for the reasons I have mentioned above.

2 doubles AND a sofa bed??? So YOU'RE the cause of the housing crisis!!

seven-day-weekend

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

2 doubles AND a sofa bed??? So YOU'RE the cause of the housing crisis!!

We have two double bedroom and a large room at the top of the house in the eaves which we use as a study/relaxation room, that's where the sofa bed is. We have an ordinary sofa too, in the living room:rotfl:

But we have had this house since 1976, brought up our son in it, had various lodgers throughout the years, our son, his girlfriend and their friend lived in it while we were in Spain....I think it's provided homes for enough people for the last thirty-six years!

It's only a bog-standard mid-terraced house, nothing grand

mazza111

princessdon wrote: »

However, you and your daughter could move in together in a 3 bedroom, leaving your 2 and their 1 bed free. Help the shortages, you are there when she needs you. Is this not an option?

Ah if only PD. That's where the shortages are in this area. 3/4 bedroom houses and one bed flats (let alone 3 bedrooms suitable for disabled people). I'm in the situation atm where I'm sorry I did the right thing. If I had kept my 3 bedroom place that would have been totally feasible. She did move back on a temp basis last year when she was non weight bearing on her leg. Had to park her in upstairs bedroom, after it took about 20 mins to get her up there, take her food up to her etc. Sharing with her 16 yo brother. But as it is atm, that would be no life for her. Stuck in mum's upstairs room. And she was a lot better then than she is now. At least where she is atm, she just about copes, apart from the bad days, like today. How long this relapse will be I have no idea. But at least where she is, she can get wee trips out in the car without leaving her too knackered.

nixe

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Isn't the prevention of your mutual murder worth a few quid a week?

no its not,
was thinking on that and it could be worth going jail