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  • Person_one
    Person_one Posts: 28,884 Forumite
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    Fire_Fox wrote: »
    Sad that MSE pandered to the negative whingebags within twenty fours and reverted to a tired old format that does not cater for all.

    Signed: a negative whingebag. :p


    I think, actually, that MSE listened to overwhelming feedback and went with the wishes of the vast majority.

    What would be your idea of 'moving forward'? If you don't want separate boards, and you don't want one inclusive board, what is it that you would prefer
  • meritaten
    meritaten Posts: 24,158 Forumite
    Fire_Fox wrote: »
    Sad that MSE pandered to the negative whingebags within twenty fours and reverted to a tired old format that does not cater for all.

    This board used to be about moneysaving, the interpersonal relationships part was an add on or evolution.
    Signed: a negative whingebag. :p


    Yes, as I pointed out before - the board is evolving! and yes anything not money saving used to be booted off! until some of us loudly objected and the forum 'team' listened and allowed non-moneysaving posts! How soon we forget! so to say its a 'tired old format' is simply untrue! its less than two years!

    but, the title marraiges, relationships and families covers a lot of ground! and judging by the wide variety of posts - if people are not sure of WHERE to post - they post here! They are either answered or the board guides (and mostly they do a good job) will move them to a more specific board.
    Marraiges is one of the best boards on the site! along with Oldstylers it is friendly and has some of the nicest people on here! but, you do get honest opinions and people are NOT out just to increase their post count!
  • balletshoes
    balletshoes Posts: 16,610 Forumite
    the title of this board isn't just marriages and families either - its relationships too. Relationships could be with anyone - you have a relationship of sorts with everyone you come into contact with in your life.

    I agree with meritaten - this is one of the friendliest boards, with some of the most varied and interesting threads, on the whole of MSE, just the way it is now.
  • Yorkie1
    Yorkie1 Posts: 12,224 Forumite
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    *max* wrote: »
    Or just...42!

    I'm eligible for that one!! :beer:
  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    edited 21 November 2012 at 7:16AM
    daska wrote: »
    But we do, as a board, recognise that don't we? Maybe not overtly but in the general run of things the topics that relate specifically to singletons don't get a response of "go away you don't belong here". More likely that, if a thread doesn't get a response, it's because people here have no interest in the subject or no experience. In which case it wouldn't matter how the board were divided up.

    Do we? With respect Daska you are a parent and perhaps you are in a relationship, you may not see things that I see (and vice versa :o). Only a few days ago there was a "best thing about living alone" thread which was swiftly followed by a "best thing about living with a partner".

    The Child Free by Choice thread was 'invaded' by parents, some of whom were lovely and supportive but some of whom take offence that we dare to make negative comments about children. Would be nice if that could have been wholly a support/ laugh/ moan thread, not a defend-your-opinions-and-life-choices thread. If people dare to admit to having an abortion because they did not want children they are criticised. There would (rightly!) be uproar if I started invading the TTC and pregnancy threads with my less palatable views.

    It seems to only be occurring to a couple of us that people attracted to this board are self selecting, the title doesn't exactly scream 'singletons, same sex couples and the child free by choice please post here' now does it? Nor do the enormous number of threads on TTC, pregnancy, school and other child related issues. What is the ratio of male to female posters on this board and what does that tell you about how inclusive the format really is? So maybe a thread won't get views or responses or interest because it is effectively in the wrong place ... yet there is no right place.

    So really, are we going to be giving a balanced view on the new board? Can MSE really get a broad spectrum of views from its members when a board was only up for 24 hours on a weekday? Plenty of people won't have logged on in that time frame, especially if they are working long hours or working away from home, which singletons, the CFBC and men of working age are more likely to be doing than the average mother.

    But again my real bugbear is that people didn't give it a chance, didn't bother to find out what plans MSE had for the board, didn't bother to find out if I am the only person who welcomes the new board or not, didn't bother to see if interesting threads would be posted or if the board would be dead as a dodo, didn't ask for the classification system to be changed. :mad:
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  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    Person_one wrote: »
    I think, actually, that MSE listened to overwhelming feedback and went with the wishes of the vast majority.

    What would be your idea of 'moving forward'? If you don't want separate boards, and you don't want one inclusive board, what is it that you would prefer

    I've already made positive suggestions in several threads, the longest of which fell into a black hole within hours along with the new board. Perhaps you could ask MSE to reinstate my views if they interest you?

    Also see post 17 on this thread and my now utterly pointless thread on the Site Feedback board.
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  • daska
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    edited 21 November 2012 at 10:10AM
    Fire_Fox wrote: »
    Do we? With respect Daska you are a parent and perhaps you are in a relationship, you may not see things that I see (and vice versa :o). Only a few days ago there was a "best thing about living alone" thread which was swiftly followed by a "best thing about living with a partner".

    The Child Free by Choice thread was 'invaded' by parents, some of whom were lovely and supportive but some of whom take offence that we dare to make negative comments about children. Would be nice if that could have been wholly a support/ laugh/ moan thread, not a defend-your-opinions-and-life-choices thread. If people dare to admit to having an abortion because they did not want children they are criticised. There would (rightly!) be uproar if I started invading the TTC and pregnancy threads with my less palatable views.

    It seems to only be occurring to a couple of us that people attracted to this board are self selecting, the title doesn't exactly scream 'singletons, same sex couples and the child free by choice please post here' now does it? Nor do the enormous number of threads on TTC, pregnancy, school and other child related issues. What is the ratio of male to female posters on this board and what does that tell you about how inclusive the format really is? So maybe a thread won't get views or responses or interest because it is effectively in the wrong place ... yet there is no right place.

    So really, are we going to be giving a balanced view on the new board? Can MSE really get a broad spectrum of views from its members when a board was only up for 24 hours on a weekday? Plenty of people won't have logged on in that time frame, especially if they are working long hours or working away from home, which singletons, the CFBC and men of working age are more likely to be doing than the average mother.

    But again my real bugbear is that people didn't give it a chance, didn't bother to find out what plans MSE had for the board, didn't bother to find out if I am the only person who welcomes the new board or not, didn't bother to see if interesting threads would be posted or if the board would be dead as a dodo, didn't ask for the classification system to be changed. :mad:

    OK, I get it, you feel excluded because there aren't enough threads that cater specifically for you, though you admit you won't actually start any of the threads you want because you've already decided that they will be ignored...

    On the other hand you started a poll on the singles board asking about living arrangements which included virtually every option of living singly with other people but did not allow for single people with kids. Being a parent does not eradicate my single status.

    Why so hypocritical? Why is being single so divisive - for you?
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  • newcook
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    For a little while there I thought I was going crackers as I couldn’t see any new ‘singles’ board – then I had seen it was taken down!!!

    Im single with no children (probably why I didn’t see this board over the weekend – I was in the pub :D) but I have never felt pushed out on the other boards or been told ‘newcook, your opinion is all moo as you are not a married parent’.

    I think the only thing that I found a bit upsetting was when I had a miscarriage last month and the miscarriage support thread is in the same area as the numerous ‘x weeks pregnant’ threads – but that was MY hang-up and I think if I hadn’t had my miscarriage I wouldn’t have given it a second thought. At the time though all I could think was ‘I should be in that thread now’.
  • Errata
    Errata Posts: 38,230 Forumite
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    But again my real bugbear is that people didn't give it a chance,
    Perhaps people looked at it, saw people were immediately posting pictures of their cats, and decided to ignore it?
    .................:)....I'm smiling because I have no idea what's going on ...:)
  • balletshoes
    balletshoes Posts: 16,610 Forumite
    I did get a chance to see the new layout and split of the boards, and my first reaction (and probably would have been my lasting reaction had it continued) was "oh now I have to look in 3 places for the threads instead of one". I think that would have made me less inclined to participate to be honest.
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