Universal Job Match at http://jobseekers.direct.gov.uk

Gaz1971

I seriously dont see how they can expect 35hrs of job searching. If you read all the local papers each week, search online several times a day on several different sites, that is not going to take you 35 hrs to do.

AP007

Gaz1971 wrote: »

I seriously dont see how they can expect 35hrs of job searching. If you read all the local papers each week, search online several times a day on several different sites, that is not going to take you 35 hrs to do.

yes it is you do it NON STOP all day as all sites are updated every few minutes.

If you wait till the end of the day it once took me 4 hours to look at every job added that day on Totlajobs.

donnajunkie

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

You have to apply for any and every job you are able to do that pays minimum wage and is within 90 minutes travel time. There will be a 35 hour job search requirement and you will have to (with proof) search and apply for jobs for that amount of time each week.

The availability of computers will be interesting but they are also supplying "access devices" for some. Should be fun (but not for the job seekers!).

that could be hundreds or more. also how can you prove you spent 35 hours per week searching. i think theres alot of scare mongering going on. if its not scaremongering and ends up true it will become clear very quickly that it cant work. can you imagine handing over your record of applying for several hundred jobs when you sign on?
i think you have got it wrong i think you must be willing to apply for anything. i dont think they expect you to see and apply for every job that gets advertised.

donnajunkie

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

I apply for jobs that are agreed on my JSAg not literally every job I am capable of doing, so I don't do that now. When UC starts that changes to having to apply for literally every job, no matter if it suits you, fits your skill set etc.

once you have been out of work a certain length of time you have to be willing to do anything. that rule applies now. they dont expect you to apply for hundreds of jobs per week though.

donnajunkie

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

It won't take more than 35 hours because that's the official limit of what you have to spend each week looking and applying for jobs to qualify for JSA.

but you say they require you to apply for everything you can do.

donnajunkie

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

True, but I do know as a fact that 35 hours of job search activity will be required and that it will, in some fashion, have to be proved. The Jobcentre is not going to accept you just saying - yes guv, this week I did exactly 35 hours searching - without anything to solidly back it up (or haven't you had to deal with the Jobcentre muppets yet?)

then they will have to explain what kind of evidence of this they will accept.

ditzyat50

35 hours??? Really this is not necessary. I kinda feel sorry for the employers who must be inundated with inappropriate applicants who have to go through these motions. (I was fortunate to get an interview and was told there was 500+ applicants) Job seekers expected to apply for any and all jobs. What happened to common sense? And job center staff under so much pressure to get people off the dole. Crazy.

Jerry_Mander

Here's a link to a specimen Universal Credit agreement from the DWP. It's all in there: http://data.parliament.uk/DepositedPapers/Files/DEP2013-0285/AWRJoanneBrownAnnex1.docm

This only happens though when you switch to Universal Credit which is some time away yet for most of us.

Jerry_Mander

ditzyat50 wrote: »

As it is, I have signed up to their new job match, but expressed my preference to the previous site to my personal adviser, and gave valid reasons...

But you do know that Jobmatch is not mandatory don't you?

"As a result of legal challenges and negative press attention, DWP have revised the guidance on UJ to make it clear that this cannot be done. The UJ Jobmatch toolkit chapter 3, paragraph 50, states: “You cannot issue a Jobseeker’s Direction to either require a claimant to create a profile and CV in Universal Jobmatch or to mandate a claimant to give us access to their account – this is their decision not ours.”

See here: http://www.pcs.org.uk/en/department_for_work_and_pensions_group/dwp-news.cfm/id/78E359C6-7B09-4FC6-98EBD4696432C199

john539

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

Here's a link to a specimen Universal Credit agreement from the DWP. It's all in there: http://data.parliament.uk/DepositedPapers/Files/DEP2013-0285/AWRJoanneBrownAnnex1.docm

This only happens though when you switch to Universal Credit which is some time away yet for most of us.

It doesn't matter what loony Iain Duncan Smith has imposed on DWP who themselves are incompetent & don't have any sense to stop him, it won't work in real world.

It won't work for jobseekers, won't work for JC advisors, won't work for employers.

Jobseekers would go mad sitting on internet all day every day, searching job sites, endlessly clicking their mouse, going cross eyed reading job specs, churning out applications, many unsuitable to show activity to jobcentre.

It's not good for their health, not good for their morale, not good for employers.