Universal Job Match at http://jobseekers.direct.gov.uk

john539

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

Like I said, I don't make the rules, IDS does.

The impracticalities of it is why I'm personally looking forward to seeing how it all pans out.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.

There are limits on what people can do while maintaining good or reasonable quality applications.

You somehow think everything on the internet you have to apply for.

If you do a google search on anything, you'll get thousands or millions of results.

Nobody has the time or brain power to read & process all that information, all those jobs you could apply for.

It's not possible.

AP007

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

They don't have to check up on you directly, you just have to prove that you're doing 35 hours of job related activity each week. But they will insist on proof of that amount of job search and if you don't give them access to, for example, Universal Jobmatch ( I wouldn't) then you'll have to take in sheets of printouts etc. showing jobs applied for and so on.

Print outs? LOL

No just list all the jobs you have applied for like I do! Easy!

63 in the last 2 weeks (full time, part time, temp and contact jobs)

john539

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

They don't have to check up on you directly, you just have to prove that you're doing 35 hours of job related activity each week. But they will insist on proof of that amount of job search and if you don't give them access to, for example, Universal Jobmatch ( I wouldn't) then you'll have to take in sheets of printouts etc. showing jobs applied for and so on.

You don't know what they are going to do, it hasn't started.

The JC advisors have little time or interest trawling though masses of paperwork for numerous people.

krok

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

They don't have to check up on you directly, you just have to prove that you're doing 35 hours of job related activity each week. But they will insist on proof of that amount of job search and if you don't give them access to, for example, Universal Jobmatch ( I wouldn't) then you'll have to take in sheets of printouts etc. showing jobs applied for and so on.

What makes you think everyone has a printer, and its common sense that the advisers will never have the time to go through all your printouts.

It will be a laugh when this starts, cant wait to take70 hours of printouts to the Job centre. i will have to bill them for ink paper and even a printer. lol.

Jerry_Mander

AP007 wrote: »

Print outs? LOL

No just list all the jobs you have applied for like I do! Easy!

63 in the last 2 weeks (full time, part time, temp and contact jobs)

If I put my mind to it I could apply for 63 jobs in one day, so if all you show the Jobcentre is jobs applied for they're going to say - oh yes, and what did you do for the other 27 hours?

Not quite as easy as you first thought eh?

And of course it doesn't have to be print outs, you can show them in any way you want to, I was just giving an example.

AP007

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

If I put my mind to it I could apply for 63 jobs in one day, so if all you show the Jobcentre is jobs applied for they're going to say - oh yes, and what did you do for the other 27 hours?

Not quite as easy as you first thought eh?

And of course it doesn't have to be print outs, you can show them in any way you want to, I was just giving an example.

What? 27 hours? Who said 63 took you one day or 5 days or 7?

I serach for work 7 days a week and even Xmas day I took my laptop to my sisters house.

I write mine all out by the days I apply for them so I can prove what was applied for each day and I send this too on email to the WP like this:

http://www.austinandrew.co.uk/Candidate/Property-Vacancies-London-Accounts+Payable+Supervisor-3598.aspx Accounts Payable Supervisor ref VAC-15056 Applied online [EMAIL="enquiries@austinandrew.co.uk"]enquiries@austinandrew.co.uk[/EMAIL]

Jerry_Mander

john539 wrote: »

You don't know what they are going to do, it hasn't started.

True, but I do know as a fact that 35 hours of job search activity will be required and that it will, in some fashion, have to be proved. The Jobcentre is not going to accept you just saying - yes guv, this week I did exactly 35 hours searching - without anything to solidly back it up (or haven't you had to deal with the Jobcentre muppets yet?)

AP007

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

True, but I do know as a fact that 35 hours of job search activity will be required and that it will, in some fashion, have to be proved. The Jobcentre is not going to accept you just saying - yes guv, this week I did exactly 35 hours searching - without anything to solidly back it up (or haven't you had to deal with the Jobcentre muppets yet?)

I have been signing on for 2.5 years now and I show them all my jobs like I keep saying. They have told me I write TOO MUCH down and they can not and will not check them

How on earth do they really think they wil check anything at all if this is really going to be the case.

the back up is the jobs that you show on your diary that you have applied for like you do now

Jerry_Mander

AP007 wrote: »

How on earth do they really think they wil check anything at all if this is really going to be the case.

They'll do random checks just like they always have done (obviously they can't check everyone's), only now they'll be looking at it in more detail.

john539

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

True, but I do know as a fact that 35 hours of job search activity will be required and that it will, in some fashion, have to be proved. The Jobcentre is not going to accept you just saying - yes guv, this week I did exactly 35 hours searching - without anything to solidly back it up (or haven't you had to deal with the Jobcentre muppets yet?)

I'd calm down.

It will be as big a problem for JC advisors as the customers/jobseekers and the unions won't stand for it, just like with UJM, lots of hot air before the crazy draconian big brother ideas gradually melt away.