Universal Job Match at http://jobseekers.direct.gov.uk

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

how do you work that one out? 35 job search is just that, a job search. Obviously if you get an interview you are allowed to go on it so you are looking for work and that qualifies you surely.

What do you do now? Job searching? You have to be available for them to contact 35 hours a week, its the same thing.

what makes what i said come into effect is if they require you to be somewhere everyday all day.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

my point exactly. No pcs for the people in the room at one time let alone ALL the people on the WP.

I am guessing there are a few thousand at mine as I do not recognise anyone there (the people on jsa)

my adviser alone has 400 customers as we are called.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

what makes what i said come into effect is if they require you to be somewhere everyday all day.

yeah at home waiting by the phone for the WP call - cant be in two places

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

yeah at home waiting by the phone for the WP call - cant be in two places

being in there would be classed as contact so they wouldnt need to call people any more.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

being in there would be classed as contact so they wouldnt need to call people any more.

they would not know that you are at home though.

PsychoPigeon

The job site is an improvement over the crappy diary.

I have to apply for 14 jobs per 2 weeks so 1 job a day. I send my CV to a job that's advertised, I then log onto my job match account and put 'CV sent (link to job advertisement)'. This creates almost 100% verifiable evidence that I am looking for work and it stops people at the job centre harassing me.

AP007

PsychoPigeon wrote: »

The job site is an improvement over the crappy diary.

I have to apply for 14 jobs per 2 weeks so 1 job a day. I send my CV to a job that's advertised, I then log onto my job match account and put 'CV sent (link to job advertisement)'. This creates almost 100% verifiable evidence that I am looking for work and it stops people at the job centre harassing me.

How does it when other jobs may not be from the UJM?

You can not just use the UJM for looking for work.

There is no proof anyone is applying for anything at all unless they the JC log into to your account say like on www.reed.co.uk and look at all your applications for proof.

Its the same as writing the diary - they do not check it and do not have the time to.

PsychoPigeon

AP007 wrote: »

How does it when other jobs may not be from the UJM?

You can not just use the UJM for looking for work.

There is no proof anyone is applying for anything at all unless they the JC log into to your account say like oand look at all your applications for proof.

Its the same as writing the diary - they do not check it and do not have the time to.

It's much more verifiable than a job diary. If I wasn't adding links directly to say gumtree, and instead put 'sent cv to warehouse job' they could start asking questions. This way they know exactly where I say I applied and it looks better. The average intelligence of the people working there isn't high, they start seeing links all over the place it puts them off interrogating you.

There's also the function of applying directly through the website to a job if the employer has linked their advert to their email, if this shows up on your page they know you applied.

Now this is in stage 2, I know in stage 3 it gets more 'you must do this' at which stage I'll quit after saving enough money to last 6 months then my account will reset and it restarts the cycle.

AP007

PsychoPigeon wrote: »

It's much more verifiable than a job diary. If I wasn't adding links directly to say gumtree, and instead put 'sent cv to warehouse job' they could start asking questions. This way they know exactly where I say I applied and it looks better. The average intelligence of the people working there isn't high, they start seeing links all over the place it puts them off interrogating you.

There's also the function of applying directly through the website to a job if the employer has linked their advert to their email, if this shows up on your page they know you applied.

Now this is in stage 2, I know in stage 3 it gets more 'you must do this' at which stage I'll quit after saving enough money to last 6 months then my account will reset and it restarts the cycle.

On your written diary you are meant to put the whole link of the job advert, the job title, the ref number, who you applied to and when you are going to chase it up - its the same thing

I have never been interogated in fact I have been told not to list all the jobs I do as its far too much!


You are ONLY talking about jobs on UJM though - if you apply via another site there is NO proof on a diary online or written that you have applied unless they are going to check and they do not.

PsychoPigeon

I've never written anything more than 'applied at such and such, no vacancies' in the paper diary and was never told I had to do more. But it's dodgy if they continue seeing that and they can flick through your diary at any point and try and question you in which case you better have an answer.

Likewise, I applied for 14 jobs and the woman seemed shocked even though a few weeks earlier she said apply for 7 jobs a week. I think she meant the '7 efforts to look for work' rather than apply but I'm managing to find 14 jobs just about. But sending your the cv is easier than writing up some malarkey like 'looked in friday ad - no suitable jobs' then having to deal with questions or the chance my 'adviser' has seen the friday ad paper and knows it's BS.