Universal Job Match at http://jobseekers.direct.gov.uk

Ratboy

People seem to confuse various issues here;

The new Gateway system, is just corrupt, if you read the terms and conditions, you wouldn't sign up, it's a license to hack your computer, and see every activity you do, even when not logged onto the site.

Plus all the corrupt jobs listed there, as posted previously.

Signing onto this new system is problematic, due to you clicking "DO NOT CONTACT ME", because the site does, and there seems no way to remove that. Even a deep clean of the computer, and I'm a computer engineer.

There seems some confusion, when the DSS sends people to search for jobs 40 hours a week, this is very common, and often includes sending people to work in shops, ie the recent case of a person sent to work in Poundland; I was sent to work in a charity shop, alongside criminals on remand, doing their time, so how am I classed as a criminal that has been sent there by a judge, but I am unable to look for a job? Because I'm working 40 hours a week? For free.

People that are affected by this, the lower classes, as others ill afford some others, WRITE to your MP.

If I bought some food, and it's bad, I complain. If I get good food, I commend them, usually I receive free money, and just so; when I complain to my MP, I receive a confused, and random reply, that doesn't go anywhere, and leads to confusion....

But if you don't like something - COMPLAIN ! Many times, you might get money off, but to an MP, they might take your money in expenses lol!

But what many people do not recognise is; their comments ARE being logged by DSS, and their comments are logged.

Checkmate_2

andy2004 wrote: »

I dont know about the 35hrs thats ALL i was told by Andy Brown.
Now Andy Brown Manager Havant jobcentre all said that I wouldnt be banned from the jobcentre but I would get a letter, Well that letter arrived today. I'll scan it in. just the jist is i'm banned, so i guess that makes Andy Brown a liar, so I guess everything he TOLD me on tuesday was also a lie.

Be grateful they didn't call the police. You threatened to do a lot worse than throw acid to a job centre plus advisor's face.

Vincent_Buenisedes

Ratboy wrote: »

People seem to confuse various issues here;

The new Gateway system, is just corrupt, if you read the terms and conditions, you wouldn't sign up, it's a license to hack your computer, and see every activity you do, even when not logged onto the site.

Plus all the corrupt jobs listed there, as posted previously.

Signing onto this new system is problematic, due to you clicking "DO NOT CONTACT ME", because the site does, and there seems no way to remove that. Even a deep clean of the computer, and I'm a computer engineer.

There seems some confusion, when the DSS sends people to search for jobs 40 hours a week, this is very common, and often includes sending people to work in shops, ie the recent case of a person sent to work in Poundland; I was sent to work in a charity shop, alongside criminals on remand, doing their time, so how am I classed as a criminal that has been sent there by a judge, but I am unable to look for a job? Because I'm working 40 hours a week? For free.

People that are affected by this, the lower classes, as others ill afford some others, WRITE to your MP.

If I bought some food, and it's bad, I complain. If I get good food, I commend them, usually I receive free money, and just so; when I complain to my MP, I receive a confused, and random reply, that doesn't go anywhere, and leads to confusion....

But if you don't like something - COMPLAIN ! Many times, you might get money off, but to an MP, they might take your money in expenses lol!

But what many people do not recognise is; their comments ARE being logged by DSS, and their comments are logged.

I agree with you on complaining. I don't agree with you on your claims of hacking - if you're a computer engineer, I'm Elvis Presley:cool:

andy2004

checkmate sugguest you re-read my post, especially the bit in the top right of the picture as THAT is what i actually said.

I never said anything about throwing anything in anyone's face, it was a story i read on yahoo last year, some one went in, signed, got told they where having their benefits sanctioned, they through "acid" in the advisors face. probably vinegar, i dont know whether that person was male or female, i dont know if they left the jobcentre then went back with it, or whether they went shopping before signing and had it with them.

And I said I could THINK of a lot worse things to do than that.
You cant be arrested for THINKING something otherwise the UK would be a prison. Not the first time i've been banned from the jobcentre.
Hell i've even been banned for threatening and aggressive behaviour when all I did was sit down and a chair and cross my arms and legs, figure that one out.
heres what happened that day.

Walked into the jobcentre and up the stairs.
security guard said Hello Mr Chambers, I replied HI and handed him my book.
I looked at the clock, went over to the job point and did a search whilst waiting for my appointment, i then walked over to the chair to wait to be called, just as i was about to sit, my name was called.
I walked over to the advisor, sat down on the chair, crossed my arms and legs "i'm a fidget thought it would a good way to stop", and didnt say ANYTHING, i kept my mouth shut and waited for them to speak.
advisor got up and walked away, "I thought to get some papers, refill the coffee cup whatever."
sitting waiting for the advisor to come back, i had a tap on my shoulder, security guard, he says "I've been ask to ask you to leave," i reply "why?" he in turn says "I don't know why", so i got up and left.
3 days later on a saturday I get a letter telling me I've been banned for 3months for threatening and aggressive behaviour.
To say i was puzzled is a understatement,

Note: the advisors on the 2nd floor had cameras behind them up on the wall between the windows.

Maybe you can explain that checkmate
Oh and it also wouldnt be the first time they called the police on me either. They've done that,
police didnt arrest me, they did however after hearing what happened leave my house LAUGHING, but thats another true story.

Ratboy, I've complained to the manager at the jobcentre Andy Brown, especially about how A4E havent done anything for me apart from a new CV in the past year i've been with them.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

you can not go into my WP unless you have an appt and they have only about 25 pc's all that seem to be from the 80's and you have to have an appt to be on one and ONLY for an hour as the next set or people are booked in on them and its not all job search but 1 hr courses and CV writing etc

yeah, the jobcentre wont be able to tell people to do their 35 hours at their provider.

donnajunkie

mvengemvenge wrote: »

Maybe it will record how much time you have actually spent on the site?

so log in. go out for the day and then log off when you come back. stupid idiots need to realise its quality not quantity what counts.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

There is no way the WP can have people there 7 hours a day or they will have to pay for lunches and drinks for people plus like I say they have only about 25 pc's if that. At one time I did a head count of over 70 people in there waiting for various things so its highly unlikely.

They can not seriously think anyone would need to spend more than 5 mins in the UJM site as its !!!!!

if people were required to be there for 35 hours they would no longer qualify for jsa and would be classed as being on a course and would have to be put on a training allowance instead. they would have to excuse people from signing on as well.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

if people were required to be there for 35 hours they would no longer qualify for jsa and would be classed as being on a course and would have to be put on a training allowance instead. they would have to excuse people from signing on as well.

how do you work that one out? 35 job search is just that, a job search. Obviously if you get an interview you are allowed to go on it so you are looking for work and that qualifies you surely.

What do you do now? Job searching? You have to be available for them to contact 35 hours a week, its the same thing.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

yeah, the jobcentre wont be able to tell people to do their 35 hours at their provider.

my point exactly. No pcs for the people in the room at one time let alone ALL the people on the WP.

I am guessing there are a few thousand at mine as I do not recognise anyone there (the people on jsa)

krok

If you dont tick the little box they cant see your activity.

It is still not mandatory to even use UJM.

Dont know what the fuss is about, just dont sign.