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No question Mac are far better than any PC out there! PC's get old and die after about a year!! I have had both mac and PC and my old mac lasted 10 years and was still fast!! PC's get clogged up with rubbish and are slowed down by everything. Mac's just run so fast i have a Macbook Air ad its so quick it takes seconds to load and shut down. You pay more because they are so much better built and are there to last!! Microsoft cant build a decent operating system to save there lives!! They are hopeless and make things to complicated!!0
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As RobTang says.
Generally, MAC users hate PCs and PC users hate MACs.
Having and using both I would say they each have pros and cons. I found the transition from a PC to a Mac a straightforward and painless transition. I suppose it depends on what you want to use it for.
Macs look nicer though!!
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No question Mac are far better than any PC out there! PC's get old and die after about a year!! I have had both mac and PC and my old mac lasted 10 years and was still fast!!
I can say the opposite. My kids both have laptops that are 11 years old (Toshiba's running XP). They use them daily and run as well as the day they came out of the factory. In the meantime my old iBook G3 from the same year spends most of it's time on a shelf because it's really showing it's age and has become barely usable. I only kept it for taking screen dumps for articles, etc. but I have other methods now.
...and if you clog your PC up with rubbish it's going to run slow (as in your first point). What you're saying is if you fill your PC up with bloatware it's going to be slower than your Mac, well yes, of course it is.PC's get clogged up with rubbish and are slowed down by everything. Mac's just run so fast i have a Macbook Air ad its so quick it takes seconds to load and shut down.
Newer PCs will load just as quick as any Mac thanks to UEFI. Prior to UEFI PCs were reliant on a firmware interface designed in the '70s with bits tacked onto it over the next 30+ years. I built a UEFI-based PC a few weeks back that could load in around 10 seconds, it had a 3Tb WD Black HDD and 4 Gb of Corsair RAM and it cost just shy of £350 to build.
You pay more because Apple have a great marketing department and aren't spread out like the myriad of PC designers. The uniform approach appeals to humans.You pay more because they are so much better built and are there to last!! Microsoft cant build a decent operating system to save there lives!! They are hopeless and make things to complicated!!
Who said Windows needs to be installed and how is comparing an Operating System to the hardware effective in making a decision on a new purchase? The OP could quite as easily install a Linux flavour onto a new PC and be just as happy with it.
Your post indicates the usual (brainwashed?) nonsense that goes on in the Mac/PC flaming war throughout the internet. One isn't automatically better than the other. I use an iPhone and an Android tablet, each one performs specific tasks useful to me and still I see people on the internet and offline who seem to believe that it's one or the other, it's nonsense.0 -
No question Mac are far better than any PC out there! PC's get old and die after about a year!! I have had both mac and PC and my old mac lasted 10 years and was still fast!! PC's get clogged up with rubbish and are slowed down by everything. Mac's just run so fast i have a Macbook Air ad its so quick it takes seconds to load and shut down. You pay more because they are so much better built and are there to last!! Microsoft cant build a decent operating system to save there lives!! They are hopeless and make things to complicated!!
love these threads because they always bring up carp like this. Which is not only wrong, but also flies in the face of comments like this,
however in the most I do find this forum is one of the better ones when this type of thing gets brought upjohnnyboyrebel wrote: »You will get idiots who are pc only yet funnily enough most mac only users will not slag off a pc like the pc users will.
Jealousy, not having the money to afford a mac? Who knows.
Anyways unless you have any specific programs you want to use which might have compatibility problems, then either will do you well, yes a PC will give you more raw power for the money, but a macs OS is more streamlined and the Apple created programs do run very smoothly on it.
However for reliability the most recent reliability surveys based on actually warranty claims and helpdesk calls, shows that Apple are not the most reliable computer and actually come in, in around 3rd or 4th place, depending on the survey, usual ones that beat them are Asus, Lenovo and SamsungDrop a brand challenge
on a £100 shop you might on average get 70 items save
10p per product = £7 a week ~ £28 a month
20p per product = £14 a week ~ £56 a month
30p per product = £21 a week ~ £84 a month (or in other words one weeks shoping at the new price)0 -
why did you start this?
I'm not gonna comment on PC as I am a mac owner, the only PC i use is a work one.
I know that £600 for a mac mini will buy you a far better specced PC, gotta be honest, but on your mini you will get iphoto, so you can edit photos to a basic level, and imovie, to make videos at a basic level. once you get the hang of both applications they are quite easy to use. the new mac mini does not have an optical drive (for CDs and DVDs). If this is a problem Apple sell a "superdrive" for £80, or you can get one from Maplin for £20.
You will get 12 months care from Apple as standard with your purchase, buy AppleCare (£130??) within the first 12 months and that extends the care until the end of the 3rd year, so you item will still be working in 2015!
I think as suggested, go and have a play on a mac in an Apple store (if you can get on one amongst all the teenagers checking their facebook in there), but if people can recommend a good PC and editing packages for your £600, have a go of them too, you may prefer how the modern windows system works...0 -
why did you start this?
If this is a problem Apple sell a "superdrive" for £80, or you can get one from Maplin for £20.
Do Maplin sell an apple transfer for £59.99?
You will get 12 months care from Apple as standard with your purchase, buy AppleCare (£130??) within the first 12 months and that extends the care until the end of the 3rd year, so you item will still be working in 2015!
Balanced post BTW.
Innocent question - What actually is "care"? Do they wrap you in warm towels?
If I had paid £680 pound (mini and drive), for any system, I would be pretty hacked off if it wasn't working in 2015."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Just for comparison reasons , I paid 449.99 in 2005 for a P4 WinXP 500 GB with 2GB . I have added a spare 1GB stick I purloined (foc) to it , and have spent £24.99 to upgrade it to Win8, and 4.99 for a new fan (I broke the old one whilst cleaning...fat fingers). It is still going strong tri-booting with Fedora/W8/WinXP, oh I didn't pay for any extended warranties.grizzly1911 wrote: »Balanced post BTW.
Innocent question - What actually is "care"? Do they wrap you in warm towels?
If I had paid £680 pound (mini and drive), for any system, I would be pretty hacked off if it wasn't working in 2015.4.8kWp 12x400W Longhi 9.6 kWh battery Giv-hy 5.0 Inverter, WSW facing Essex . Aint no sunshine ☀️ Octopus gas fixed dec 24 @ 5.74 tracker again+ Octopus Intelligent Flux leccy
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Apple are a premium design product with a price tag that reflects that. When you look at PCs that achieve the same weight/ dimensions / battery life (where appropriate) etc then you will find they are basically the same price especially if they were released around the same time. Macs also retain their value far better than any other brand, stupidly so.
So one big question is if you are willing to pay a premium for the design or not? And that is fairly separate to brand.
Haven't used Windows 8 yet but my experience of Windows 7 and earlier is that Mac tend to be slightly simpler to use and very slightly more stable but then its fairly inevitable given the small amount of hardware Mac OS X has to be able to run on -v- the billions of possible combinations for Windows. That said it is a small difference and Windows 8 may change all that
Personally we use Macs at home and work, though often a client provides a Windows laptop. Our iMac has XP installed under Parallels and I boot it up once in a blue moon when wanting to do a complex Microsoft Project plan or Microsoft Visio diagram which will be passed to a MS user. I prefer the Mac software for both of these but they dont have 110% compatibility with the Windows software as Microsoft have never ported them to Mac.
I would have a windows machine again but given an ultra light laptop will cost the same irrespective of brand it may as well be Mac and be a simple "plug and play" with the rest of the network and equipment we have.0 -
Its a testament to apple's marketing machine that this discussion is even framed as Mac vs PC, a Mac IS a PC. The question should be broken down to which OS is better for a PC (OS X, Windows, Linux), which hardware manufacturer is the best value for money and is it worth paying a premium for a system that can run OS X?0
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The thing you're asking between the difference between a brand and a type of technology! I always think that's quite a fundamental thing about this argument that doesn't make sense to me! Obviously a brand has all it's psychological impact on you as well, in other words using a mac makes you feel like you're using something more than just a computer which has value I think.... I love sitting in front of a mac!!!0
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