Ryanair to start charging a fee for payments using cash passport

The_Groat_Counter

Good. The price advertised is the price punters should be able to pay using a plain-vanilla debit card.

(And yes, I'd have Easyjet ditch their £9/€11 admin fee per booking too.)

callum9999

stoneman wrote: »

So you would be quite happy for all VAT to be excluded from prices and be added at the end? You seem to have a lot to say for yourself but of course just as long as it has a sembelance of "I'm alright jack" to it. Look it's the law, get over it and yourself.

Sorry, I forgot we weren't allowed to question laws...

Yes I would be quite happy for them to do that (as they do in America). I wouldn't remotely like it, and hate having to add it up in my head while in the states, but they are PRIVATE COMPANIES. Just see it as a case of "I'm alright Jack" if you want, but I'm merely annoyed that legislation like this caters to the lowest common denominator so that those with the slightest level of ingenuity or common sense lose out. It wouldn't surprise me if this continues into the banking sector, forcing the people like me who aren't inept at running a bank account to start paying fees because it's "immoral" or "unfair" to charge unauthorised overdraft fees etc. to those who can't be bothered to do so.

Plus, your "alright Jack" slur is just as applicable to you in reverse anyway... "I can't be bothered to look into something before purchasing, so things should be made better for me at the expense of others"...

MarkBargain wrote: »

Just because they are a private firm does not mean they do not have to operate within the rules of the trading area they work in, and the EU requires companies to be fair and transparent. We have to have trading standards so everyone knows where they are, and so everyone can compare across companies easily to decide who to use.



The reason those "dozen or so words" are there is that the OFT required Ryanair to put them there, ditto with the extras shown on the main flight screen etc. Left to their own devices, imagine how hidden the extras would be!

When did I ever say they didn't have to? I thought I made it pretty clear it's the rules themselves I don't agree with... Along with the absolutely ridiculous EU flight delay compensation regulations... On what planet is €250 a reasonable level of compensation for your £12 flight being delayed 3 hours?

I don't care why they are there, just that they are there. Although you seem to think I believe companies can do absolutely anything they want to, not telling you about fees they charge isn't something I support - merely the way in which they tell you. In my view, if you just look at the figure on the first screen and ignore the warnings (in red - hardly hidden) about extra fees, then that's your problem.

callum9999

NFH wrote: »

If the £6 fee is unavoidable, then it should be included in the advertised price from the outset. The only reason that Ryanair excludes the £6 fee from advertised fares is to mislead consumers into believing that the fare is £6 less than it really is. Giving a misleading indication of price is an unfair commercial practice.

But the £6 isn't unavoidable, making your entire argument moot...

Though by now I think I've made it clear I have little interest in "protecting" the time (which to anyone remotely able to use a computer, will likely be in the single digits of minutes) of those who can't be bothered to put a modicum of research into their flight so there isn't a lot of point continuing.

Maybe I've underestimated myself and I am infact some sort of genius, but when I look into booking transport with an unfamiliar company (be it train, coach or plane), one of the first things I do is ascertain what charges aren't included in the fare. I always used to think that was common sense? Evidently not.

NFH

callum9999 wrote: »

But the £6 isn't unavoidable, making your entire argument moot...

How is it avoidable (after 1st December)?

jayok

Of course it is unavoidable after 1st Dec as that is the change Ryanair are bringing in. Up to that date, it is very much avoidable and has been for years. I have saved about £400 with a bit of research and go get rather than !!!!! and moan about the unfairness of Ryanair

callum9999

NFH wrote: »

How is it avoidable (after 1st December)?

It's December 1st already!? Wow that was a long sleep...

IF it's not included in the fare after 1st December then you can moan. Though I'm really not surprised you're moaning about something that hasn't even happened, and may not happen at all...

NFH

callum9999 wrote: »

It's December 1st already!? Wow that was a long sleep...

IF it's not included in the fare after 1st December then you can moan. Though I'm really not surprised you're moaning about something that hasn't even happened, and may not happen at all...

You appear to have missed the subject of this thread, which is "Ryanair to start charging a fee for payments using cash passport", which will take effect from 1st December. The thread is clearly about what will happen in future, not about the status quo.

budgetflyer

What it means is Ryanair will charge an admin fee for ALL forms of payment. However that admin fee will be included in any headline price.

Anyone who thinks this is a victory for the consumer must have their head in the clouds.

NFH

budgetflyer wrote: »

What it means is Ryanair will charge an admin fee for ALL forms of payment. However that admin fee will be included in any headline price.

Anyone who thinks this is a victory for the consumer must have their head in the clouds.

Of course it's a victory for the consumer. The overall fare paid will remain the same, but the advertised fare will soon reflect the true fare charged. The issue is purely about advertised fares, not about the overall fare paid.

The only losers are of course the minority who have benefited from Ryanair's single free method of payment. This anomaly existed, not because that free method reflected Ryanair's cost savings, but in order to satisfy a legal loophole. This minority should be grateful that the anomaly existed for as long as it did; there was never any economic or moral justification for it.

Louisdf

NFH wrote: »

Of course it's a victory for the consumer. The overall fare paid will remain the same, but the advertised fare will soon reflect the true fare charged. The issue is purely about advertised fares, not about the overall fare paid.

The only losers are of course the minority who have benefited from Ryanair's single free method of payment. This anomaly existed, not because that free method reflected Ryanair's cost savings, but in order to satisfy a legal loophole. This minority should be grateful that the anomaly existed for as long as it did; there was never any economic or moral justification for it.

There are currently Ryanair fares to Warsaw Modlin for £2/£4, which are obtainable if I use the cash passport and restrict myself to hand luggage only. After December, when this £6 charge comes into force for all payments, nobody will get a fare as low as £6, will they? Thank you, OFT.