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B&Q Kitchen, where do i begin!

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  • smiffyz
    smiffyz Posts: 22 Forumite
    edited 28 October 2012 at 6:53PM
    So you have a 70cm 5 burner gas hob. Can you confirm what the space is between the wall units above it are? What size cooker hood have you got?
    Surely they havent designed it with a 600mm space and 600mm extractor?

    The hood just fits in between the units on each side, maybe a couple of mil space each side.
    The wall units finish in line with the hob edge vertically, and are 350mm above it (measuring from the top of the burners), the hob is 70cm and the hood is 70cm and is 75cm above the hob (measuring from the top of the burners), The units should be min 5cm away from the edge of the hob at each side, and a min of 45cm above it (measuring from the top of the burners). and the height of the hood is ok. Looking at all the main suppliers they all say as the gas fitter says.

    The dimensions are universal for gas hobs, not just our new one.
    Thanks
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    edited 28 October 2012 at 7:02PM
    The units should be min 5cm away from the edge of the hob at each side, and a min of 45cm above it (measuring from the top of the burners).
    Not quite. If the bottom of the units (including the pelmet ) are less than 450mm vertically from the top of the hob then there must be a 50mm horizontal gap to the side of the hob.

    However, what do the MIs for the hob say?

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • smiffyz
    smiffyz Posts: 22 Forumite
    keystone wrote: »
    Not quite. If the bottom of the units (including the pelmet ) are less than 450mm vertically from the top of the hob then there must be a 50mm horizontal gap to the side of the hob.

    However, what do the MIs for the hob say?

    Cheers

    No the minimum height is 450 and there must be a 5cm gap from the hob edge, I have 350 and no gap vertically the edge of the units are in line with the edge of the hob.

    The MI's say exactly the same as the Gas Fitter says, and all the other manufacturers I've looked at say the same.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    edited 28 October 2012 at 7:30PM
    smiffyz wrote: »
    No the minimum height is 450 and there must be a 5cm gap from the hob edge, I have 350 and no gap vertically the edge of the units are in line with the edge of the hob.
    No - the regs are as I say. If 450 vertical separation there does not need to be the 50 horizontal gap. Less than 400 there does need to be. I appreciate that your installation at 350 does require this 50 gap and its in that context that you are considering it BUT its important not to misquote the regs for those reading this thread later. Sorry if thats being picky.
    The MI's say exactly the same as the Gas Fitter says, and all the other manufacturers I've looked at say the same.
    OK thats fine. I only asked because MIs override regs and there may have been a getout for you there but 'tis not to be apparently.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • yes that's i was trying to say, however sorry to press a point but all hobs aren't the same, it seems to me you are reading the BS measurements or the measurements the installer gave you, hobs are installed to the meaurements in the installation instructions for YOUR HOB, so if you could humour us & tell us these measurements not the general ones you have been told
    I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.

    You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.
  • smiffyz
    smiffyz Posts: 22 Forumite
    edited 28 October 2012 at 7:55PM
    yes that's i was trying to say, however sorry to press a point but all hobs aren't the same, it seems to me you are reading the BS measurements or the measurements the installer gave you, hobs are installed to the meaurements in the installation instructions for YOUR HOB, so if you could humour us & tell us these measurements not the general ones you have been told

    They are the MI's measurements i'm quoting, and NEFF, Baumatic, Bosch all say the same.
    I cant post a link as i'm a newbie user.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    Then there is something wrong here with the design Tall units are normally built so when the wall units are fitted the 450mm vertical separation is achieved. A 350mm gap between bottom of wall cabs and top of worksurface is really far too small. Alternatively I'm starting to wonder if the fitters have actually installed the floor and wall cabs properly in the first place.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • smiffyz
    smiffyz Posts: 22 Forumite
    keystone wrote: »
    Then there is something wrong here with the design Tall units are normally built so when the wall units are fitted the 450mm vertical separation is achieved. A 350mm gap between bottom of wall cabs and top of worksurface is really far too small. Alternatively I'm starting to wonder if the fitters have actually installed the floor and wall cabs properly in the first place.

    Cheers

    Me too

    All i want is the kitchen i paid 8.7k for.
  • I agree with KS the cupboards do sound low or the worktops too high (normally worktops are around 900mm off of the floor) thats why i was trying to get the measurements from your hob instructions as they may have been different, i had this arguement with Magnets a few weeks ago the MI stated 680mm to the above cupboard & there was only 640mm so i refused to fit the hob, builder phoned them & the guy from magnets disagreed with me so i said phone the manifacturer, he did & phoned back 10 mins later & said he was wrong but i was the first installer in 5 yrs to have brought that up with the same hob & kitchen, so the builder had to raise the extract up
    I'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.

    You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    smiffyz wrote: »
    Me too

    All i want is the kitchen i paid 8.7k for.
    Quite right too. What does the plan say in respect of heights etc.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
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