Very s-l-o-w draining kitchen sink with air bubbles…?

southcoastrgi

the problem is def lack of fall on the waste pipe but it could be blogged anywhere on there, professional strenght drain unblockers won't damage the waste pipes but the problem you have is getting the trap off & a bucket under if it won't clear it, you could try waiting for the water to go from the sink then take off the trap & undo the tee at the back & try & rod the pipe on the rh side.

the gas meter has been moved at some stage the governer looks quite new plus it has a wall mounting bracket on it (& it's not fitted to the wall), i wonder who did the boiler & connected onto the gas meter ? the boiler install looks a neat job however they have used solder ring fittings & no independant RGI would normally use these (except in a resricted place) as they are expensive compaired with end feed.

btw yep your vids def show a blocked sink

Rochdale_Guy

southcoastrgi wrote: »

the problem is def lack of fall on the waste pipe but it could be blogged anywhere on there, professional strenght drain unblockers won't damage the waste pipes but the problem you have is getting the trap off & a bucket under if it won't clear it, you could try waiting for the water to go from the sink then take off the trap & undo the tee at the back & try & rod the pipe on the rh side.

Thanks, I know. I had to wait for the water to go from the sink, then gently loosen the trap with towels and a flattish rectangular tray to let the trapped "trap" water run into. No room at all under that sink

I can try undoing the "T" joints but as above, there's no way of properly catching any water held inside

And if I undo it, catch all the water, then unblock the blockage with a drain snake, how do I know it won't all come back AT ME?!

If it is a blockage, what's with the air bubbles?

southcoastrgi wrote: »

the gas meter has been moved at some stage the governer looks quite new plus it has a wall mounting bracket on it (& it's not fitted to the wall), i wonder who did the boiler & connected onto the gas meter ?

I live in a rented council flat, Rochdale Boroughwide Housing manage the properties on their behalf, and RBH do all the servicing and installation. These flats had new combi-boilers put in many years ago. The gas meter is also newish, i.e. it was replaced by United utilities or whoever I think in the last 5 years. The guy commented it was mess under my sink and the pipes didn't look safe being all twisted and asked if I had been tampering with them. Thanks very much :mad:

southcoastrgi wrote: »

the boiler install looks a neat job however they have used solder ring fittings & no independant RGI would normally use these (except in a resricted place) as they are expensive compaired with end feed.

As above, the council are responsible for maintenance but they did chose PH Jones and Bramhalls construction when this estate was "done up". Even now, the annual smoke alarm and gas central heating servicing is done by another company contracted to do it on behalf of the council. What do Rochdale Boroughwide Housing actaully do? :rotfl:

southcoastrgi wrote: »

btw yep your vids def show a blocked sink

Shouldn't that be s-lo-w draining sink?! It all goes within 2-3 hours, snore ZZzzzzz :mad:

And why is the combi-boiler pipe leaking?

marleyboy

A daft place to have a gas meter .

OP, have you tried bicarbonated soda crystals, judging by the difficulty you may have removing the u-bend and clearing it, bicarb might just do the job.

cyclonebri1

southcoastrgi wrote: »

it could be if it's teed into the rain water down pipe & that's blocked it could go back up the condense & either stop the boiler working or flood it

Fair point, I was assuming it was open as most installations I've seen have been;);)

cyclonebri1

Rochdale_Guy wrote: »

No, I am worried something "industrial" will eat the plastic pipes away.

I am already worried from when water was leaking 6 months ago from one of the T-joints onto the gas meter below

Don't worry, it won't, only metal or organic material.

If you do use it ensure you were gloves and goggles and use a plastic funnel to get the stuff past the metal work in the bowl ir it will damage the chrome.

PS, doesn't the fact you are in rented accommodation mean the landlord should be responsible, I'm not expert on this so it's a question

Rochdale_Guy

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

PS, doesn't the fact you are in rented accommodation mean the landlord should be responsible, I'm not expert on this so it's a question

Yes, all repairs are done by the Council, but as above, I would have to book a whole day off work to wait in for a repair guy to come

Would rather do it myself - if I can.

I had success with another couple of DIY problems with invaluable help from fellow MSE forum posters, here:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3687437

Such a sense of satisfaction being able to do stuff yourself (with expert help from others, LOL) without having to take time off work for a workman to come and do it!

Of course, anything major I would call them out (quick disclaimer!). :T

Anyone else? The blockage is still there, and I have collected about an egg cups worth of water dripping from the condensate pipe so far today, so that is getting worse.

I'll try bicarbonate of soda & vinegar later, but doubt that will help as it's NOT a blockage in the trap or anywhere up to the T joint (from my exploration attempts!).

Rochdale_Guy

P.S. The drain snake from T**lstation has a 6mm end which was far too big for the holes in my sink, so I fed it in from under the trap, still didn't work though

Alias_Omega

Speak to your neighbours, see if they have any drainage issues.

Does the boiler drain go outside, or connect into the waste pipe somewhere?

Can you follow the waste pipe further down-stream. Is there any sinks etc on the same line that are not blocked. That would give you a good guess where its blocked.

If not, can you split it further down-stream and see what happens?

We once had a blocked sink, removed the trap from the bottom of the sink and refitted it. Then filled the sink with boiling water,eventually the sink cleared. Must of been something oily/lard in it before we moved in..

cyclonebri1

:D:D:D Great satisfaction or otherwise, if the bottom line is that if the council foots the bill, then given all suggestions from here have been tried or dismissed, (not sure on that on Keith), then call them in.

southcoastrgi

not sure which one you mean CY but if you are talking about the condense & downpipe i have been to one with exactly that prob, overflow teed into the down pipe sealed around the pipe with mastic downpipe full of leaves the water went back up the pipe filled up the heat ex & flooded the boiler, new boiler time, i'm not saying this is the case with the OP's it could just be the pipe isn't glued correctly or it could be a leak from above (inside the boiler) but it needs investigation.

Rochdale_Guy

Thanks guys.

My local supermarket didn't have bicarbonate of soda, but the guy said Dri-Pak soda crystals would do the same thing...



Hmmmm, think I've been misold...

Anyway, one full packet later, half a bottle of vinegar and a full kettle of near boiling water and has made NO DIFFERENCE whatsover :mad:

Looks like I'll have to get the council in afterall. Better not need a need combi-boiler too

Sigh....